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Re: whats the perfect converter for the 557 cam in a 440
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01/18/11 02:39 PM
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whats wrong with the one you have?
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Re: whats the perfect converter for the 557 cam in a 440
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#908114
01/18/11 03:04 PM
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hemigod426
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how much do you drive it and how far? how often do you really race? that cam is perfect for street car i like a tight 10 inch for street car. if you really want to run a # and dont care about slipage/trans heat/gas mileage ect.. go 4k stall
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Re: whats the perfect converter for the 557 cam in a 440
[Re: shoebox]
#908116
01/18/11 04:14 PM
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Triple Threat
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Try it, Should be close to "ideal" for a street/strip deal.
-Dustin
67 Dart, 9 second, 392" G3 Hemi
68 Barracuda 340 F/SA
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Re: whats the perfect converter for the 557 cam in a 440
[Re: Big Squeeze]
#908119
01/18/11 06:46 PM
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Quicktree
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i guess if this stall is too loose i can have it sent somewhere for a tighten up
If anything I was going to say it was too tight....   
same here 
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Re: whats the perfect converter for the 557 cam in a 440
[Re: shoebox]
#908120
01/18/11 06:59 PM
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MR_P_BODY
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Its hard to say what that conv will stall at behind that 440 but I would guess in the 4500 range... which is still fine for the street 
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Re: whats the perfect converter for the 557 cam in a 440
[Re: shoebox]
#908123
01/19/11 12:30 AM
01/19/11 12:30 AM
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BradH
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... a tci "race" 9 inch 3800 stall to start with...
If it's an actual "race" converter, it'll likely slip so badly below the lock-up point that it'll drive like crap on the street. Try it and see if you can live with it.
IIRC, 383man runs a Dynamic 9.5", as do I. I have no idea if they're configured the same, though.
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Re: whats the perfect converter for the 557 cam in a 440
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#908125
01/19/11 07:23 AM
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Quicksilver440
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are the dynamic 9.5s all custom or is it a off the shelf converter?
I believe they always build to order...I run a dynamic 9.5 that I boughth used. It's actually too tight for my combo (built for a more powerful car).
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Re: whats the perfect converter for the 557 cam in a 440
[Re: BradH]
#908126
01/19/11 07:28 AM
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... a tci "race" 9 inch 3800 stall to start with...
If it's an actual "race" converter, it'll likely slip so badly below the lock-up point that it'll drive like crap on the street. Try it and see if you can live with it.
IIRC, 383man runs a Dynamic 9.5", as do I. I have no idea if they're configured the same, though.
what  we have used 5200 stall race converters on the street and they didn't drive like crap on the street. a converter doesn't stall untill power is applied.
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Re: whats the perfect converter for the 557 cam in a 440
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01/19/11 11:00 AM
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its a tci unit.. i called with all the numbers.. alls they could tell me is that it is a custom 9 inch race converter "probably too loose for the street". the man i bought it from is a dynamic customer, this was a "backup" converter he tried and he thought it was about 3800-4000. it was a racecar so we dont know about the drivability. im going to throw it in and see what happens!
I have a 8" thats going in my Rampage and I called
T/A and talked to Paul, gave him the numbers on
mine and he said its a 3800 series but after telling
him my engine and vehicle specs he figured about
5000-5200 so I'll put it in and give it a try... the
most I might have to do is pull it and send it out
to get adjusted... one thing I liked was he said that
conv is a very efficient conv with a low slippage
rate
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Re: whats the perfect converter for the 557 cam in a 440
[Re: shoebox]
#908130
01/19/11 12:14 PM
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440Jim
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im going to throw it in and see what happens!
I think it is worth trying. Let us know two things:
1) How it drives pulling away from the stop light (normal traffic/slow).
2) What the WOT stall turns out to be.
Different people will tolerate different feel during normal traffic driving. If it stalls around 3800 rpm in your combo, I think it will be fine.
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Re: whats the perfect converter for the 557 cam in a 440
[Re: Labratt]
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01/19/11 08:42 PM
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Re: whats the perfect converter for the 557 cam in a 440
[Re: 383man]
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01/20/11 03:18 AM
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I have a 440 with ootb eddy head and a 6 BBL.In a 3895# 70 roadrunner and 4.10 gears. It has a PTC 8in that stalls at 5000 rpm.Has gone 11.53@117 in street trim.
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Re: whats the perfect converter for the 557 cam in a 440
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#908136
01/20/11 12:25 PM
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not a big tci (TOTAL CRAP INSIDE)fan at all but heay if it works ok, I'll take a hit there, but i run turbo action/ dynamic prefer dynamic, much better tech help but a good 9-9.5 convert should work great on a street/strip car with no bad effect, make sure tho you run a good trans cooler/lines
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Re: whats the perfect converter for the 557 cam in a 440
[Re: Quicktree]
#908137
01/21/11 11:21 AM
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BradH
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... a tci "race" 9 inch 3800 stall to start with...
If it's an actual "race" converter, it'll likely slip so badly below the lock-up point that it'll drive like crap on the street. Try it and see if you can live with it.
IIRC, 383man runs a Dynamic 9.5", as do I. I have no idea if they're configured the same, though.
what we have used 5200 stall race converters on the street and they didn't drive like crap on the street. a converter doesn't stall untill power is applied.
I'm sure you have enough experience to know that a converter can be configured a bazillion different ways and that has a direct impact on the way it responds to things like part-throttle application below the actual stall speed. Some units still provide a reasonable amount of fluid coupling under those conditions, while others are just "slip sliding away" (to borrow a line from an old Paul Simon song).
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Re: whats the perfect converter for the 557 cam in a 440
[Re: Labratt]
#908138
01/21/11 11:25 AM
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Val-haul-ass... eventually
BradH
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... I run a 9.5" Dynamic,behind my modified 440, that flashes to 4500rpm,and drives like a stock converter on the street!
I won't claim mine drives like a stock converter under the stall speed, but it's a lot less "slushy" than the "brand name" 10", 3800-stall, unit it replaced. It also picked up about .2 and 2 MPH due to reduced slippage.
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