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procharged smallblock #901640
01/10/11 10:24 PM
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starting to gather ideas on a sb build, where should i begin to look for ideas,on internals of the block, any help with heads would help too


footbrake N/A SB 408 Scamp 10.10 @ 132 street/strip
73 Duster 340 street strip 12.79 @ 105
Re: procharged smallblock [Re: Stroker Scamp] #901641
01/10/11 11:09 PM
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Oconomowoc, WI.
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Talk to Steve Morris and no one else, he's the master


http://www.stevemorrisengines.com/


1968 Barracuda 360/727 11.20 @ 121 mph 421 rwhp
1985 Harley Sportster Bobber
2006 Ram 2500 sport - The Cudahlr
Re: procharged smallblock [Re: Cudahlr] #901642
01/11/11 01:56 AM
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Coronado, CA
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I have a pretty nice engine I put together. It wasn't cheap.

I have a 1971 360 block (up to 1975, I think, are stronger blocks due to high nickel content)

Hughes Engines girdle
Roller lifters/rockers sourced from Hughes
K1 forged 4" crank/rods
Diamond forged pistons custom built for me (I have the serial # so they can be reproduced w/ their program)
Hughes cam (alot like a 5.9 Dak R/T cam but on 114LSA)
Eddy Stage II heads from Hughes
Eddy Super Victor Jr. intake.
Melling HV pump
Eddy high flow water pump
MSD Pro Billet dist.
MSD 8mm wires
Cometic Gaskets


Good for 650 hp and 589 lb/ft torque at Southland Performance in Gray, LA. It looks like they are Southland Speed now.

I can look up the dyno sheet somewhere I'm sure. It could do even better but it's right where I want it. Definitely could reach the limits of the stock block really easily. I wouldn't do this with a non-"high nickel" block. I would love to do the same thing but a 416" with a 340 resto block.

Oh, D1-SC kit was from the Supercharger Store.


70 'cuda: ProCharged 408, Tremec 5 speed, S60,triangulated 4 link, Hydroboost and Wilwoods
Re: procharged smallblock [Re: Stroker Scamp] #901643
01/11/11 03:14 AM
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Walnut Creek, CA
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My procharged 340 has been together since 1998 and runs great still with a ton of miles on it. In terms of what mods are needed you need to tell us more about your goals. If your going to try for a mild 600hp street motor its really easy, but if you have aspirations of a 1000hp terror a ton more is needed.

-Jon

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70 challenger convertible. 340/5 speed. blown, intercooled, efi, blah blah blah 71 valiant scamp 318/A833OD/AC/PS 00 dakota RC 4.7L 5 spd autoX'r. SRT10/T56 swap in process 73 W200 Power wagon, PTO winch, 4 spd
Re: procharged smallblock [Re: Cudahlr] #901644
01/11/11 11:46 AM
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Talk to Steve Morris and no one else, he's the master


http://www.stevemorrisengines.com/




Even if you don't go with his services, Steve is more than willing to tell you what works and what doesn't. He is a very stand up guy, and more than willing to help. Plus, he is The Master when it comes to Procharger engines.
Also, my son works for him.

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Re: procharged smallblock [Re: Cudahlr] #901645
01/12/11 11:16 AM
01/12/11 11:16 AM
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Niles, Michigan
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Talk to Steve Morris and no one else, he's the master

I agree,He is awesome to work with and takes the time to make sure its done right.
http://www.stevemorrisengines.com/



Re: procharged smallblock [Re: Hitman340] #901646
01/13/11 04:46 PM
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I'm currently working on brackets to mount a reverse rotation F1r on an X block. If anyone is intrested let me know.


69 340 swinger streetcar 8.13 1/8th w/1.90 60ft w/ 3.55s 69 422W9 Dart stock suspension,5.27 on 275/60s,single bar plate
Re: procharged smallblock [Re: W5Dart378] #901647
01/13/11 08:37 PM
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State College, PA
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Steve Morris does'nt work @ Steve Morris Racing Engines anymore... I know it's odd his name is on business he is no longer affiliated with but... just FYI you won't get ahold of him there. Last I knew he was @ New Era Race Craft, but I think I may have read he bounced around again after that but not sure.

But that being said, there are lot's of people/places that can build a good ProCharger motor/give you good advice. Getting camshaft right is really biggest hurdle, the rest is pretty straight forward. As far as the actual engine goes....It's just a blower motor...

Mounting/packaging the Procharger is much more difficult than building good motor for it.

& if you're gonna do blow through carb, I'd head over to http://www.theturboforums.com/smf/index.php

& read up in the blow through section.

Re: procharged smallblock [Re: RyanJ] #901648
01/13/11 08:45 PM
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Oconomowoc, WI.
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& if you're gonna do blow through carb, I'd head over to http://www.theturboforums.com/smf/index.php

& read up in the blow through section.





For blow thru carbs there really is only 2 choices C&S OR CSU

http://www.candsspecialties.com/

http://www.csucarbs.com/


1968 Barracuda 360/727 11.20 @ 121 mph 421 rwhp
1985 Harley Sportster Bobber
2006 Ram 2500 sport - The Cudahlr
Re: procharged smallblock [Re: Cudahlr] #901649
01/14/11 02:19 AM
01/14/11 02:19 AM
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Plymouth Meeting, PA
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hmmm, i guess i will throw my prosytems on e in the trash


BB, TT5,Procharged 3300lb Street Car 4.79/154
Re: procharged smallblock [Re: RyanJ] #901650
01/14/11 10:54 AM
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Steve Morris does'nt work @ Steve Morris Racing Engines anymore... I know it's odd his name is on business he is no longer affiliated with but... just FYI you won't get ahold of him there. Last I knew he was @ New Era Race Craft, but I think I may have read he bounced around again after that but not sure.

But that being said, there are lot's of people/places that can build a good ProCharger motor/give you good advice. Getting camshaft right is really biggest hurdle, the rest is pretty straight forward. As far as the actual engine goes....It's just a blower motor...

Mounting/packaging the Procharger is much more difficult than building good motor for it.

& if you're gonna do blow through carb, I'd head over to http://www.theturboforums.com/smf/index.php

& read up in the blow through section.




Steve Morris Race Engines no longer goes by that, they are now SMRE and no affiliation to Steve Morris. Steve's shop is at www.stevemorrisengines.com. He still has some affiliation with New Era Racecraft but because of space limitations at NER has opened his own shop. My son works for Steve.

Re: procharged smallblock [Re: Cudahlr] #901651
01/18/11 07:08 PM
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Quote:

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& if you're gonna do blow through carb, I'd head over to http://www.theturboforums.com/smf/index.php

& read up in the blow through section.




For blow thru carbs there really is only 2 choices C&S OR CSU

http://www.candsspecialties.com/

http://www.csucarbs.com/



don't forget, the Carb Shop can hook you up with a carburetor, and they are also a ProCharger dealer too. and supercharger store sells the kits.

Re: procharged smallblock [Re: XLR8S U] #901652
01/18/11 09:10 PM
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I’m in the same boat but a bit further ahead. I’ve built and r3 block 420ci small block with indabrock heads. I have a msd blaster efi with fuel system and everything to run it.
I bought a F2 standard rotation procharger, used that was on a LS 1. It came with BOV, and some chevy 3 bolt cogs. I’m a bit lost in how to put this on the small dodge in terms of bracket, harmonic dampener, cogs any anything else needed to run it ? is anyone running one on a small dodge ?

Re: procharged smallblock [Re: madmoparmike] #901653
01/18/11 10:37 PM
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I'm currently putting a F1R on a small block mopar. It was a kit that places the procharger on the passenger side. I believe that you can get brackets from Steve Morris for a small block. Another good site for info is Yellow Bullet. My kit was from SD Concept Engineering.

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Re: procharged smallblock [Re: 80arrow] #901654
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Heres a pic of the I/C

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Re: procharged smallblock [Re: 80arrow] #901655
01/18/11 10:53 PM
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I'm currently putting a F1R on a small block mopar. It was a kit that places the procharger on the passenger side. My kit was from SD Concept Engineering.




More info please!

Im doing the same thing in a 68 barracuda, and using a Sd bracket as well


1968 Barracuda 360/727 11.20 @ 121 mph 421 rwhp
1985 Harley Sportster Bobber
2006 Ram 2500 sport - The Cudahlr
Re: procharged smallblock [Re: Cudahlr] #901656
01/19/11 12:12 AM
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Quote:

Quote:

I'm currently putting a F1R on a small block mopar. It was a kit that places the procharger on the passenger side. My kit was from SD Concept Engineering.




More info please!

Im doing the same thing in a 68 barracuda, and using a Sd bracket as well




Let me know what you want, I'll tell you whatever I know. It might not be right but I'm new to this also.

Re: procharged smallblock [Re: 80arrow] #901657
01/19/11 04:15 AM
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do they give you specs on how much HP it takes to drive the procharger


footbrake N/A SB 408 Scamp 10.10 @ 132 street/strip
73 Duster 340 street strip 12.79 @ 105
Re: procharged smallblock [Re: Stroker Scamp] #901658
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This shows what procharger recommends that the motors make N/A for each blower
http://www.procharger.com/models.shtml

Re: procharged smallblock [Re: 80arrow] #901659
01/19/11 09:26 AM
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My motor is a 360 R3, K-1 4" stroke crank, ross pistons, not sure on the rods at the moment. Ported Indy 360-1 heads and intake, roller cam, and blow through carb. I'm having Chuck Lofgren build it so he's got the parts picked out I just don't remember some stuff off hand. Going to run a MSD 7535 box so I can pull timing with boost. Probably going to get the cam from Steve Morris and probably a new carb hat from Extreme Volocity or Morris. I'm wondering now on the Indy intake,, becuase its so tall, thinking about a single plane Mopar intake or Edelbrock intake. Mostly for packaging but if its going to cost a bunch of power I'll just get a new hood.

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