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Re: If u had a motor n/a [Re: ProSport] #898984
01/08/11 03:10 AM
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my brother and i put his 416 smallblock with ported eddys 904 trans 4200 stall 430 gears 8.75 rear, 8.5x26 slicks. in my grandmothers 87 fifth ave had leather seats fur carpet even kept the wire spoke hub caps. looked totally stock exept the sound we could eat every damn mustang in town. they all thought it was a special race 5th ave idiots

Re: If u had a motor n/a [Re: 8secDart] #898985
01/08/11 03:49 AM
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Here you go $600.00 and it's yours.You can drive it home.





It's even got a cool name(Lee-Roy Brown)




I really wish you hadn't posted that.
I paid a good bit more than that and trailered it home from Indiana.
In it's defense , it is a Volare and has buckets...........

Re: If u had a motor n/a [Re: tubtar] #898986
01/08/11 10:49 AM
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the frozen wastes...
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Okay... maybe i'm a bit more distrustful or paranoid when it comes to street racin' than most here... but there is a definite science when it comes to sleepers, and half ov that is psychology. When i'm snoopin' through the lanes for tricks i look for the smaller cars. Age or make/model count for nothing... i'm not a 17 year old idiot in a 'hot' 5.0L, i'm looking for sleepers. ANY G-body can be a sleeper, just like any Fox body can. Anything small. Most other 'paranoid' spotters will agree... so go big. BIG.

Try a C-body. Get the right one and they're not much heavier than a 68-up B. Opt for some creative weight-reduction and you could be lowering that 800HP bomb into a 3500-3700lb car. NO ONE suspects a full size, not hot rod guys, not punks, and certainly not the layman. Full size trucks, vans (if you dare), how ugly do you want to get? Go one further... go for the elite full-size... try an Imperial (or Caddy, Lincoln)... even cars guys that are paranoid and can hear the power would second guess it, or you might just win because they're too busy laughing or spitting out their drinks to shift... A 20ft car that weighed 5200lbs off the lot could still see pretty close to 4000lbs race weight and pass for a 'cruiser' to most (more importantly, who would look...???)... and there are many fast 4000lb cars out there. The only downside... you need a lot ov power to go really fast, but you've got a lot ov engine...

Personally, i dont think an A or B-body 4-dr makes a good sleeper. Anything that shares sheetmetal, especially front clip aesthetics with s musclecar (ie: that 4dr B in the picture) can make a car guy, or even some punk wonder. Likewise the wagons. Wagon race cars are everywhere... its been a cool trend for years and years. You're not fooling anyone. Well... unless its a 71 Fury Suburban or a 69 T&C wagon...

More than anything else, its not the make/model that makes a sleeper, its the concept and probably most ov all, the execution. One ov the most insane sleepers i've ever heard ov was in fact a muscle car... a 66 or 67 Chevelle posted on here a while back.

The best sleeper i've ever seen in person (by FAR) wasn't some ugly old 60's Dart, or a Volare wagon with rust holes, or a K-car... it was a really nice looking 67 fastback Mustang. It looked like a nice cruiser, sounded healthy, though not nasty by any means... your average 350-375HP 351 build through a FM exhaust-healthy. It had small tires, maybe 9" out back and no littles up front, no bar or cage, no scoop... A car your wife would drive...

He got kicked off the track his first run out with a 9.5 second run and a LOT ov MPH...

Re: If u had a motor n/a [Re: Pale_Roader] #898987
01/08/11 12:35 PM
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I'd vote for a beat up G-body too, but he said it has to be a Mopar. A BBM with TTI headers should fit though

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Re: If u had a motor n/a [Re: Pale_Roader] #898988
01/08/11 12:43 PM
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i have a 67 coronet 4 door that i would like to do that to. it still has the original paint on it what is left of the paint.have steel wheels with dog dish hub cap . the 383 run good but 800 hp would be a scream. brad

Re: If u had a motor n/a [Re: Dart1031] #898989
01/08/11 12:56 PM
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How about a old dogde work van with ladder racks and PVC pipe up top Oops... thats a dodge van

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Re: If u had a motor n/a [Re: emarine01] #898990
01/08/11 02:28 PM
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Salisbury North Carolina
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Lee-Roy browns big brother BUSTER BROWN




Re: If u had a motor n/a [Re: thehemikid] #898991
01/08/11 02:59 PM
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OH yeah!


Yeah, it's got a smallblock.
Re: If u had a motor n/a [Re: tubtar] #898992
01/08/11 03:03 PM
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Here you go $600.00 and it's yours.You can drive it home.





It's even got a cool name(Lee-Roy Brown)




I really wish you hadn't posted that.
I paid a good bit more than that and trailered it home from Indiana.
In it's defense , it is a Volare and has buckets...........




Sure wish Ilived close by you, my wife would love that car!


I am not causing global warming, I am just trying to hold off a impending Ice Age!



Re: If u had a motor n/a [Re: HotRodDave] #898993
01/08/11 03:23 PM
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Here you go $600.00 and it's yours.You can drive it home.





It's even got a cool name(Lee-Roy Brown)




I really wish you hadn't posted that.
I paid a good bit more than that and trailered it home from Indiana.
In it's defense , it is a Volare and has buckets...........




Sure wish Ilived close by you, my wife would love that car!


Hmmm. How bad do you want one?
I've got a 77 Priemere 360 all-o-riginal woody that could use a new home (same color). I think we're about 11 hrs apart?

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Re: If u had a motor n/a [Re: old yeller] #898994
01/08/11 05:08 PM
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How about a Dodge Ice Cream Truck
I love the music!

Re: If u had a motor n/a [Re: Locomotion] #898995
01/08/11 05:21 PM
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Don't know if they made them in '64, but here is a 1965 Dodge Dart wagon.

Good sleeper with extra weight over the back wheels for traction!
1965 Dodge Dart wagon





Extra rear overhang plus a short 106" wheelbase.
The Dart sedan/hardtop was 111", Valiants were 106", D and V wagons were 106". The Dart wagon is basically a Valiant wagon with a Dart front clip.

Re: If u had a motor n/a [Re: 8secDart] #898996
01/08/11 06:58 PM
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Here you go $600.00 and it's yours.You can drive it home.





It's even got a cool name(Lee-Roy Brown)


Where's that one at? I would buy it. It would make a good replacement for my wagon. Jim

Re: If u had a motor n/a [Re: 8secDart] #898997
01/08/11 07:51 PM
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Lee-Roy browns big brother BUSTER BROWN






What does one of those wagons weigh?

Re: If u had a motor n/a [Re: CRE2004] #898998
01/08/11 09:15 PM
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Downtown Roebuck Ont
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Don't know about the wagon but a buddy of mine bought a 76 Aspen R/T brand new and it weighed north of 3800 lbs. 318 4 spd/OD.

Kevin

Re: If u had a motor n/a [Re: RemCharger] #898999
01/09/11 12:46 AM
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Here you go $600.00 and it's yours.You can drive it home.





It's even got a cool name(Lee-Roy Brown)




I really wish you hadn't posted that.
I paid a good bit more than that and trailered it home from Indiana.
In it's defense , it is a Volare and has buckets...........




Sure wish Ilived close by you, my wife would love that car!


Hmmm. How bad do you want one?
I've got a 77 Priemere 360 all-o-riginal woody that could use a new home (same color). I think we're about 11 hrs apart?




Pics, Price, condition?


I am not causing global warming, I am just trying to hold off a impending Ice Age!



Re: If u had a motor n/a [Re: HotRodDave] #899000
01/09/11 02:11 AM
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How about a k-car 4dr or wagon. I've seen a couple of them converted to V8/rwd. Getting spanked by a k-car....

A 4dr late 60's coronet or satellite sedan or wagon would also be a cool car to drive and make for a nice sleeper that would hold a hot big block no problem.

Re: If u had a motor n/a [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #899001
01/09/11 02:18 AM
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The wagon is in NC.The wagons are not that heavy. Buster with the bigblock was like 3,400 but it was all stock.You can get weight out real easy.I bet you can get one to 3,100 and look real stock.



Re: If u had a motor n/a [Re: 8secDart] #899002
01/09/11 07:35 AM
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Been there, done that.

Re: If u had a motor n/a [Re: farmboy] #899003
01/09/11 09:27 AM
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Well you can guess that I'm going to recomend a truck. A mid 60's Sweptline that's been through a few owners got it's share of rust and dents. They've got enough room under the hood to hide a tunnelram, blower, or turbos without cutting the hood. Also enough room for decent headers and exhaust. Their high center of gravity will also help transfer weight on launch, you can also hide a fuel cell right in front of the rear bumper.
It's not a Mopar but there are a couple great video clips on U-Tube of a '70 Chevy pickup. Look under Farm Truck. The guys got a rusted out dented up, pickup with duct tape covering holes, a coat hanger for an antenna, cracked windshield, one dented hubcap, paper coffee cup on the dash, beat up old topper, and an airhorn from a semi, with a pizza delivery sign on top of the cab. It runs 10.50's@125. Dave

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