Re: Setting up your own Dana
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I have a Dana S60 from strange. I am switching from my tru-track to a spool, and installing new axles and a ring and pinion.
There is a basic list of tools I would assume that everyone who is GOOD at this has. What are they, so when I start this I have everything I need.
Thanks
Josh
I have not done a Strange Dana 60, I understand they have carrier adjusters like the 8 3/4 have so you will need a special tool (call Strange for it or whoever they recommend or who sells them, a friend made his own )to adjust them from through the axle tubes You'll need a dial indicator with a magnetic base and flexable neck, pinion depth tools, press and bearing remover and a special tool to set the carrier bearing adjusters, several hours and some patience A good factory service manual with the procedures for setting up a Dana 60 will help also I honed a set of the pinion and carrier bearings so I can slide them on and off while setting them up, that saves a bunch of time I install the new bearings last and check all the specs agian I set the pinion depth and pinion bearing preload and then the carrier bearing preload and then the backlash last, don't install the pinion seal until the pinion depth and preload is where you want it with the new bearings IHTHs
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Re: Setting up your own Dana
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Re: Setting up your own Dana
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and installing new axles
And new Axles Jimmy..... Thanks again bud
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Re: Setting up your own Dana
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Hey Josh Setup bearings... Well the strange case may not need them though. But are a must with stock style dana 60 carriers. Of coarse a dial indicator for setting pinion depth. Strange or S&W maybe even Mark Williams Inc makes a handy center of pinion tool that sure makes measuring for axles and figuring dana offsets a simple task. Its pretty much a flat thin piece of sheet metal that bolts to a few of the cover bolts... Just hook the tape measure in the slot and pull and measure. But I dont have one, or setup bearing set. I measure a bunch until Im sure on length for axles. I also have worn out a few sets of cylinder hone stones making my own slip fit bearings. Also a bearing separator or Bearing Clam for changing out inner pinion shims. So far no problems with my Dana's in these race cars, which arent many 2-3 in the last 3-5 years personally and a few for friends too. Most problems people have with dana breakage Im betting will lead back to not enough carrier bearing pre-load. Simply sliding some snug shims against the case on each side doesnt cut it. So the last tool is a home made case spreader.
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Re: Setting up your own Dana
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you don't need a case spreader or honed bearings for the strange s-60. it has a screw adjuster in the housing. A good hardened pin punch is all you need to turn them. after that a pinion depth tool is nice but not needed either. all you really need is a dial indicator, a good dial caliper to measure shims and the pinion head, marking compound,something to hammer the races in and out, and a ton of patients. You can buy a new pinion bearing if you don't have a press and a speader to get it off. I use assorted pipes to press bearings on pinions but have seen people use small punches to hammer them on.
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Re: Setting up your own Dana
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Do this a lot and it get's simpler and easier each time.
IF YOUR GEAR HAVE A GREAT PATTERN AND DO NOT HUM NOW!!!
All you need is a new large pinion bearing and a long punch and hammer.
Pull the axles of course. Remove the yoke. Remove the carrier. Remove the pinion. If your shims are behind the large race which would be the best choice keep up with them. If the race and bearing is like new which it should be. Buy a new big pinion bearing(the same brand that's in there now). Press it onto the pinion. Now carefully read the numbers for pinion dept off your old pinion. Read the number off the new one. If it's the same stick the rear back together and set backlash. If not figure the difference and add or take away shims to make the dept correct. If you must check the dept but it should be correct. Set your carrier back in and set backlash. Check the pattern, if OK go with it. Be sure to set the pinion bearing preload. EVEN IF YOU DO ALL THE SETUP AS IF THERE WAS NEVER A GEAR IN THE HOUSING YOU MAY STILL HAVE TO CHANGE THE PINION DEPT TO CORRECT THE PATTERN. I have 8 sets of gears and have not struggled checking pinion dept in a long time. The pinion bearing preload is sometimes what gets aggrevating. I have an old housing so setting backlash can be time consuming sometimes. That S60 is so simple a 9 year old can do it.
The best thing is to have a phone number to someone who knows these rears in case you get screwed up they can talk you through it. But, make sure they are going to be around the phone when you tear into it. LOL
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Re: Setting up your own Dana
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I use assorted pipes to press bearings on pinions but have seen people use small punches to hammer them on.
To put a new bearing on a new pinion, I put the pinion in the freezer overnight. I put the bearing on a 60 watt light bulb for a few minutes, then quickly slide the bearing on and give it a tap for good measure. I highly recommend this. It slides right on, just don't stop half way.
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Re: Setting up your own Dana
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I use assorted pipes to press bearings on pinions but have seen people use small punches to hammer them on.
To put a new bearing on a new pinion, I put the pinion in the freezer overnight. I put the bearing on a 60 watt light bulb for a few minutes, then quickly slide the bearing on and give it a tap for good measure. I highly recommend this. It slides right on, just don't stop half way.
That is very good info. Mopar has us do basically the same thing when going thru the newer manual tranny's. It works very good. Ron
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Re: Setting up your own Dana
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Great tip Jim.
The pipes are a lot safer to for installing bearings. I have chipped a brand new bearing with a punch.
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