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Re: Fake fender tags [Re: JoesMopar] #889144
12/27/10 06:21 PM
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All this reminds me of a sure thing rebody story. Sometime in 2005 or 2006 a guy in FL had a mysterious '69 RAIV Judge for sale, numbers matching and all but no pics of the car. I called. Everything from the factory VIN and data plate from the cowl to the original RAIV #s matching engine could be had for $40,000. On a 4'x4' pallet... I passed.


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Re: Fake fender tags [Re: dstryr] #889145
12/27/10 07:06 PM
12/27/10 07:06 PM
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Well all I can say is I didnt know it was such a bad thing when I had Galen make my tag for my Challenger over 9 years ago from its original build sheet. Hind sight being 20/20 I wish I hadnt had it made at all now with all the problems it has caused. I know now that I will never be able to make a tag or correctly or be abel to documnet my roadrunner so that is ok with me.
What is not ok is because of me making a unknowingly bad decision years ago, now I am not allowed to know anything about my 70 Roadrunner's dealership info that is on the Hamtrack registry and run by Barry Washington. I also know that whatever dealer ship info there is such as the dealer who sold the car or who bought the car dosent go on a fender tag anyway and see no way it could help me to be a disohnest person. I have been black listed for being ignorant to this whole tag issue. I never had any bad intentions and still dont.

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Re: Fake fender tags [Re: superbyrd] #889146
12/27/10 07:30 PM
12/27/10 07:30 PM
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Blair County,PA
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so let me guess,that challenger fender tag (the ragged one or a repop tag) will be winding up on a different challenger,restored as a 440-6 R/T?????? and i suppose it will still be the original car? lolol. right.





Sorry,the tag is all thats left.If you want to make a big deal out of it enjoy,here is the whole thing.You'll play h#ll ever finding any remnants of any thing else that was ever connected to it.Knock yourself out!

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Re: Fake fender tags [Re: superbyrd] #889147
12/27/10 07:42 PM
12/27/10 07:42 PM
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Blair County,PA
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And if you have a lot of free time:::::::

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Re: Fake fender tags [Re: 62maxwgn] #889148
12/27/10 07:44 PM
12/27/10 07:44 PM
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And if you have a lot of free time:::::::





Re: Fake fender tags [Re: 62maxwgn] #889149
12/27/10 07:46 PM
12/27/10 07:46 PM
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Fresno, CA
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And if you have a lot of free time:::::::




Can that even be read from the other side?

Re: Fake fender tags [Re: Jim_Lusk] #889150
12/27/10 07:59 PM
12/27/10 07:59 PM
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Blair County,PA
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And if you have a lot of free time:::::::




Can that even be read from the other side?




No,guess thats why I'm having trouble getting a fake tag made.

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Re: Fake fender tags [Re: 62maxwgn] #889151
12/27/10 08:36 PM
12/27/10 08:36 PM
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Fresno, CA
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Quote:

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And if you have a lot of free time:::::::




Can that even be read from the other side?




No,guess thats why I'm having trouble getting a fake tag made.




Maybe it was blank........

Re: Fake fender tags [Re: Jim_Lusk] #889152
12/27/10 08:49 PM
12/27/10 08:49 PM
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Kirkland, Washington
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Quote:

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And if you have a lot of free time:::::::




Can that even be read from the other side?




No,guess thats why I'm having trouble getting a fake tag made.




Maybe it was blank........




Looks like BS27R to me.....

Re: Fake fender tags [Re: 70Runnerdude] #889153
12/27/10 09:02 PM
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Kinda like shoot first then ask questions scenario .

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Re: Fake fender tags [Re: Triggerfish] #889154
12/27/10 10:18 PM
12/27/10 10:18 PM
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Round Lake Beach, Illinoisy
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The Hemmings article link below talks about that black Hemicuda that was sold at B-J for $801K and was being investigated, anyone know the outcome?

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I understand your predicament & hope you can find your original. I started a resto 5 yrs ago on my 68 383, 4spd Formula S & misplaced the tag or my mechanic did. Either way, I've got to find the original & even though I have the build sheet, I won't buy a ropop fender tag. The repops look fake to the discerning eye, anyway, & a few yrs ago, my bro bought a $42K, rotiserrie restored 68 GTX from a very 'reputable' dealer & resto shop that was a fake. He didn't know it until 6 mos after he sold the car to put his daughter thru college. Now, after looking at the tag, I can see its a fake. I'd never buy a car from this dealer & certainly question his reputation whether he know about it or not.
I agree, it depends on intent, but I certainly understand Barry's stand. Don't get me wrong, I'm in NO way accusing you of being dishonest, nor demeaning your intent with the following link. This article is exactly why, I believe, Barry feels the way he does. I was a victim of this guy who sold me a damaged 70 hemi block & crank & only found recourse by adding it to this lawsuit, because Barry & another Moparts member saw Pappas's ad on ebay & Hemmings & knew he was selling a fake &posted it on cuda chllenger.com.
Hats off to Barry & Aaron who noticed his tag & vin plate were fakes & posted it on the net. Here's the link http://www.hemmings.com/mus/stories/2006/07/01/hmn_feature16.html
I was going to make a tag on my hemi challenger clone & put OH MANGO Kick ass Hemi, on the bottom line, but never did.

Anyway, best of luck finding your tag.




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Re: Fake fender tags [Re: 70Cuda383] #889155
12/27/10 10:40 PM
12/27/10 10:40 PM
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Addison Twp, Mi.
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My car has none. build sheet OR fender tag. I'm going to make a fake one.

and it's going to clearly be a fake. possibly humorus too.




That would be a blast to create! With all the texting alpha-numeric codes the kids are using today, we could create a funny message in the standard space!

OUR LUK N8T F8K JS23J0B
MYY CAR T00 BAD 4U END


I am not rich...but I get off my ass everyday to make sure I am not broke!

Can we get the Mexican cartels to help us with our supply chain issues? They don't seem to have any trouble getting stuff from one place to another.
Re: Fake fender tags [Re: QuickBpBp] #889156
12/27/10 10:42 PM
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jersey shore
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the only thing worse then the create a tag clowns
is a fendertag collector/thief

Re: Fake fender tags [Re: Rhinodart] #889157
12/27/10 10:45 PM
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Quote:

black Hemicuda that was sold at B-J for $801K and was being investigated


Anybody who pays that much for a car deserves to be screwed over, they got too much money in the first place!



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from a title company in Alabama, which provides title service for vehicles older than the 1975 model year, and also issues titles for vehicles with missing paperwork



First mistake, don't buy a car without a title and take it to a state that requires titles!

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99 percent of the people in the car hobby are good people.



A person is a moron to believe this when money is involved!

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Re: Fake fender tags [Re: skullbucket] #889158
12/27/10 10:58 PM
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Why steal a fender tag? What good is it to anyone? Has anyone really had one stolen at a show?

Re: Fake fender tags [Re: scatpacktom] #889159
12/27/10 11:46 PM
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Round Lake Beach, Illinoisy
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Why steal a fender tag? What good is it to anyone? Has anyone really had one stolen at a show?




I personally know of two that were stolen at shows. Neither have been recovered...


The funny thing about science is that if you change one miniscule parameter you change the entire outcome to the way you want it.

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Re: Fake fender tags [Re: skullbucket] #889160
12/27/10 11:58 PM
12/27/10 11:58 PM
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Spokane Washington
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The Hemmings article link below talks about that black Hemicuda that was sold at B-J for $801K and was being investigated, anyone know the outcome?






I only read that the car was sold from a guy in San Jose CA to a Canadian, where did BJ come into it?

Re: Fake fender tags [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #889161
12/28/10 12:19 AM
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Ah the old memory still not working too well. I am talking about the black rebody that sold at B-J, maybe it was a black 71 for $600K, that sound familair?


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Re: Fake fender tags [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #889162
12/28/10 12:24 AM
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wonder how many folks actually read that article and let it sink in?
there are lots of people out there,with a rust-bucket,roadrunner/charger r/t,etc. that still think that taking that engine/trans,VIN tag/fender tag/body numbers and put them on a rust free satellite,base charger,and claim " i am saving a vauable car",or some other stupid excuse,that still don't get that it is illegal,wrong,and still a fake. no other way around it. call it what you want. READ ARTICLE ABOVE. ILLEGAL.

Re: Fake fender tags [Re: Rhinodart] #889163
12/28/10 12:28 AM
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Ah the old memory still not working too well. I am talking about the black rebody that sold at B-J, maybe it was a black 71 for $600K, that sound familair?




Thought it was a 70 and Galen outed it at circus d' sand and some still paid 600K for it ...

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