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Re: back brace [Re: Scamp408] #881076
12/18/10 01:47 PM
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any pics of the premade or homemade




This is mine... home made out of 2 X 3 X .125 wall
cant see it real well but it tappers out to the bearing
flanges

6364375-chassis2.jpg (37 downloads)
Re: back brace [Re: MR_P_BODY] #881077
12/18/10 02:32 PM
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So everyone that is welding them without a jig are you leaving the rear complete? Or stripping it bare?

I see Tony leaves them complete, what does everyone else do.

If you're leaving them assembled I'm sure you're draining the gear lube, or that could cause problems


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Re: back brace [Re: DemonDust] #881078
12/18/10 02:34 PM
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So everyone that is welding them without a jig are you leaving the rear complete? Or stripping it bare?

I see Tony leaves them complete, what does everyone else do.

If you're leaving them assembled I'm sure you're draining the gear lube, or that could cause problems


no full of gear lube, not enough heat to worry about anything if you do it right.

Re: back brace [Re: DemonDust] #881079
12/18/10 03:09 PM
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So everyone that is welding them without a jig are you leaving the rear complete? Or stripping it bare?

I see Tony leaves them complete, what does everyone else do.

If you're leaving them assembled I'm sure you're draining the gear lube, or that could cause problems




I narrowed mine and back braced it at the same time
so there wasnt any guts in it... you can do it with
the guts in it but like was said ... no fluid ...
I weld about a inch then move to the other side and
just jump all around to let it cool (no fixture but
I do have a shaft and collets for set up

Re: back brace [Re: Scamp408] #881080
12/18/10 06:15 PM
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any pics of the premade or homemade




Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: back brace [Re: DemonDust] #881081
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Anyone have pics of how they jig up an 8 3/4?






Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: back brace [Re: jcc] #881082
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Looks like a couple thousand dollar jig there...


I think I'll take my chances without one...


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Re: back brace [Re: DemonDust] #881083
12/19/10 11:04 AM
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nice pics guys I am thinking about it

Re: back brace [Re: Scamp408] #881084
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The reason for a fixture is to pre-load the tubes away from the back braced side of the housing, being that when you weld, as the weld cools, it shrinks, hense warping. Here is a pic of the fixture I made when I back braced my Ford 9" Housing for my Road Runner. I have the housing bolted thru a plate, then have u-bolts at the ends of the tubes. I drew the tubes down about 3/16" each. I then Tig Welded the back brace, bouncing back-n-forth, side to side to control heat. When all done, the tubes came back darn near perfect. One side, right on, the other side within a 1/16". So, if I do another one, may only draw the tubes down about 1/8". After bracing was done, I cut the housing to the correct length & then welded new flanges on with my flange jig. DO NOT weld a back brace on, unless you plan to cut off & install new housing ends.




Re: back brace [Re: STEFF] #881085
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DO NOT weld a back brace on, unless you plan to cut off & install new housing ends.









That jig would be very cheap to make. I like it


Why do you have to cut the ends off if you back brace it? If it doesn't warp I don't see a problem


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Re: back brace [Re: DemonDust] #881086
12/19/10 03:23 PM
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He's changing the housing length

Re: back brace [Re: DemonDust] #881087
12/19/10 04:28 PM
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That jig would be very cheap to make. I like it


Why do you have to cut the ends off if you back brace it? If it doesn't warp I don't see a problem




For all the welding being done with a back brace, no if's about it. It's going to warp.

Re: back brace [Re: DemonDust] #881088
12/19/10 04:29 PM
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I set the housing in a cradle, chain each end, then use a bottle jack to bow the housing forward as I weld the back brace continuously.

My welding cradle looks similar to the big I-beam version posted earlier in the thread, only it has 1/2" thick forked uprights. I use a similar method to straighten bent housings.

Re: back brace [Re: MR_P_BODY] #881089
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I don't know if I like that jig or not, whos to say the housing was straight to begin with? I would go with traditional jig imo.

Re: back brace [Re: Quicktree] #881090
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Funny thing is I have a machine barstock to run through the housing and old center case but I dont have the bearing pucks.

Re: back brace [Re: STEFF] #881091
12/19/10 07:55 PM
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DO NOT weld a back brace on, unless you plan to cut off & install new housing ends.

Don't ask me how i know

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