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world block and 572-13 heads #879324
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ok guys talk to a buddy today that went out the pri show . he said he talk to one of the guys from world blocks and was told they no longer made blocks for mopar. ..anybody else hear this???? also who has a block cause he's looking 1 to build up a new bullet.. ...
now part 2 of the ??? he has a set of 572-13 heads and would like to know would it be best to build a 572 or he thought of a 540 he has pistons already that are 4.565 (i think thats what he told me) and would like info on a build either 572 or 540 whats the best route????? so come on lets hear about this 1 guys...and who has a block ???

Re: world block and 572-13 heads [Re: earthmover] #879325
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The 572's will work fine on a 540. If he has a 4.565 bore now, then he adds a 4.500 crank and gets a 589" motor.I have ran 440-1 heads on several 540 and 557 motors without issue. Actually ran quite well. The added intake volume of the 572 is what its all about. People get all hung up on them not flowing much better than a 440-1, but thats not what it is all about.

He should be looking more at what he NEEDS, then general opinion. Should buiold his motor based on needs, both performance and budget.


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Re: world block and 572-13 heads [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #879326
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yea thats about what he's doing trying to get stuff going in the right way....he's looking a block that can handle it and when he was told that the world block is going out he now wonts to find 1 for the build...what other blocks are out there that can handle this parts and power????thanks for the info

Re: world block and 572-13 heads [Re: earthmover] #879327
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Have him call Todd Marsh at Marsh Performance. Todd may still have a World, or also has the Koleno blocks.

I never signed on for the World block deal, as they only could sell the aluminum blocks direct, no cast iron, only thru M/P.

I was pretty sure the World block/ Mopar deal was going away.


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Re: world block and 572-13 heads [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #879328
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thanks man. will give todd a call this week myself

Re: world block and 572-13 heads [Re: earthmover] #879329
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wow all the hits and only 1 guy helps come on in moparts

Re: world block and 572-13 heads [Re: earthmover] #879330
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Why is he hung on an Iron block. I would never ever due on of those again. Weight, can't repair,cooling. Did I mention a nose heavy car.

Re: world block and 572-13 heads [Re: earthmover] #879331
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What's the price of a Koleno block? Are they heavy?

What does an aluminum block cost? Would it be streetable?


1970 Challenger, all aluminum 528 Hemi, HDK suspension, Tremec 5 speed manual
Re: world block and 572-13 heads [Re: Cuda367] #879332
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he may not be he's more old school never been on the net just a old racer trying to bring he's racing up to date..he has found a 2 door stratus (i think i speeled that right) that he is going to build for this motor so he may go to something else he just didnt wont to be stuck with parts and no good blocks to fit the parts he has came across for the build...whats out there and who has some???im new to big block world and learning myself so im really no help except for asking you guys thanks mike

Re: world block and 572-13 heads [Re: earthmover] #879333
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Keith Black is back up and running..


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Re: world block and 572-13 heads [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #879334
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Good ??? Prosport

Re: world block and 572-13 heads [Re: ProSport] #879335
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Quote:

What's the price of a Koleno block? Are they heavy?

What does an aluminum block cost? Would it be streetable?




no idea on the first question and i have been trying to buy one for over 6 months.

as for the aluminum block on the street? i drive the ____ out of my car. its a indy maxx and i think around $4500.00.


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Re: world block and 572-13 heads [Re: bigtimeauto] #879336
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I did not talk to world at PRI, BUT they did have both a Hemi and a wedge on display in the booth.

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Re: world block and 572-13 heads [Re: earthmover] #879337
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Prosport ! I've seen kalenos listed for $3600 and 320+lbs


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Re: world block and 572-13 heads [Re: moparniac] #879338
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Re: world block and 572-13 heads [Re: earthmover] #879339
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As far as the Koleno blocks go:

-Price is set by the individual builder/distributor
-Weight is 288lbs w/o caps at 4.5 bore

As of now there are only a limited number still available. I believe Koffels have a few www.b1heads.com (419)433-4410 or Best Machine www.bestmachineracing.com (248)987-6038. Due to our current weather situation our schedule has been pushed back for production but none the less we will be working extremely hard on cranking them out for the new year

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Sorry didn't mean to overpower this post. As far as World iron blocks go, if they no longer make them that's news to us but at any rate from what we have seen they look pretty nice

Re: world block and 572-13 heads [Re: BIG BEAR] #879341
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Go Koleno! IMO

If world isn't making them move to the next one which in my mind is superior over the World block anyways. Give Koffles a call!

Or if the guy want's Alum Give Keith Black a call. I called them a few months back and said they could have one for me in 4-6weeks.

Re: world block and 572-13 heads [Re: Diablo] #879342
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Iron blocks are not going away. They are switching vendors, sorta. I can't give exact names but here is the general way it goes:

Blocks are cast @ foundry "A". They are then purchased and machined by company "B". Then World would purchased finished blocks from company "B" and sells them to Mopar(this way World does not have to buy any castings that get improperly machined or are defective castings, since World was not maching the blocks in house). The reason for World selling to Mopar is that World is a Tier 1 supplier(ISO certification)and can sell to Chrylser Corperation or Fiat or whoever it is now.

It is my understanding that Company "B" is finishing or has finished getting ISO certified so that they may become a Tier 1 supplier and sell directly to Mopar.

It is also my understanding they are in the middle of switching vendors so blocks may be a little hard to get but it should be resolved shortly.

Re: world block and 572-13 heads [Re: MuscleMike] #879343
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Thanks guys ill pass on the info . I talked to my buddy this morn and trying to get him into a alum block so well see. Also I'm gonna pass on the #s so he may be calling some of you guys thanks mike

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Indy Maxx Aluminum block it a 100 lbs or so lighter.You can pick it up and walk around with it.


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Re: world block and 572-13 heads [Re: MRMOPAR622] #879345
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x2 on the indy block

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Well if ya do get the world make sure you get the arp studs instead of the other kind it comes with!


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J-F-Christ has there ever been a recipe w/so many cooks.MoPar cant find there butt with both hands on this one

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And we wonder why the automotive industry was in such a shambles????? ....just ask any Mopar Performance dealer how things have beem as of the last few years. Cant get crap.

I sure wish Dart could have been able to make a cast iron block similar to their Big M block, the world would be a better place.


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it would be nice if mopar had more aftermarket parts like the others .just a shame we either have to apy out our a-- or use whats there to make the best we can.....

Re: world block and 572-13 heads [Re: earthmover] #879350
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ok guys my buddy ended up getting a block now needs to know where to get the parts or kit from to put this thing together ??? he is going with the 572 and has the 572 heads so whats the best place or places to get the parts for this build looking to build at lease 1000hp or better...needs crank rods and piston so lets here it... thanks for all the help you guys have have

Re: world block and 572-13 heads [Re: earthmover] #879351
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ok guys my buddy ended up getting a block now needs to know where to get the parts or kit from to put this thing together ??? he is going with the 572 and has the 572 heads so whats the best place or places to get the parts for this build looking to build at lease 1000hp or better...needs crank rods and piston so lets here it... thanks for all the help you guys have have



We'd be glad to help. Does he already have the heads?

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yes he has the heads already...

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just a little for the day to get some more input thanks

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Call Hensley Performance in Knoxville Tn... you wont be disappointed .. 1-865-947-0426 ask for Ken and tell him i sent ya..

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Chuck and Pete at Best Machine, They put together a 588 for my boat using 572-13 heads. (248) 987-6038. Very easy people to deal with. Galen

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thanks guys for all the help..im getting info for him so he will be in contact with you guys..he just dont have internet so its hard to really ask the ?? for him so thank you all mike

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