Re: W-5 Question
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Um... yes all SB Chrysler oil feed holes to the rocker shafts intersect the head bolt hole..they're machiend @ an angle to intersect the head bolt hole... the oil passes up through the head bolt hole to get to the rocker stands/shafts in a W5 or any other SB head. Completely normal & may want to plug the cyl head oil feeds off in the block or head, if going to T&D's & pushrod oiling.
I never noticed it before but I checked some other
heads and like you said they are all that way... I
just never noticed it... thanks... yeah I was going
to block off the feed ... plus I need to drill the
lifter bushings .... what size do you normally drill
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Re: W-5 Question
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.028" on a drag motor, .060" Street/circle track. & I run restricted Manton pushrods.
Thanks Ryan, I'll go with the .062 on this build...
also since I will be oiling through the push rods
for the TD rockers I just remembered I dont have any
oil through roller lifters... if I recall correctly
the AMC rollers had oil through rollers OR do you know
which ones to use
thanks
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Re: W-5 Question
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.028" on a drag motor, .060" Street/circle track. & I run restricted Manton pushrods.
Thanks Ryan, I'll go with the .062 on this build...
also since I will be oiling through the push rods
for the TD rockers I just remembered I dont have any
oil through roller lifters... if I recall correctly
the AMC rollers had oil through rollers OR do you know
which ones to use
thanks
What block are you running?
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Re: W-5 Question
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What block are you running?
Stock block
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With bushed lifter bores
Simplest/cheapest drop in pushrod oil roller lifter would be the new Comp 8043-16's
I would use a Crane Ultra pro 69550-16 myself but more $ & the rivet design may require little clearancing in the valley depending on block.
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Re: W-5 Question
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I agree with Ryan, go for the Cranes ( about $100 more)if you can, but I have used the 8043's and Brians, which are the same now in the Comp line,and they work fine.The rivets almost always will be an issue witht he Cranes, but still minor. The last W5 which was a stock block unbushed I did, still needed to restrict the pushrods at .040, and still PLENTY of oil up top. I think the .028-.040 hole for bushings is more than enough, unless a street combination, which I have used .050 without issue.
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Re: W-5 Question
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Simplest/cheapest drop in pushrod oil roller lifter would be the new Comp 8043-16's
I would use a Crane Ultra pro 69550-16 myself but more $ & the rivet design may require little clearancing in the valley depending on block.
I was looking at the 8043-16 but was wondering if there
was a better one... which you like the Crane
thanks
Why do I like the Crane? Because I've never had one fail, they fit well, oil well, don't seem to wear out, have EDM oil to roller axle, are light.... & they are also the preferred roller lifter by majority of Sprint Car engine builders, which tells me alot about their longevity as well. I dunno I just stick with what I know & like & have had success with in past. One of those don't fix it if it ain't broke kind of things.
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Re: W-5 Question
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I agree with Ryan, go for the Cranes ( about $100 more)if you can, but I have used the 8043's and Brians, which are the same now in the Comp line,and they work fine.The rivets almost always will be an issue witht he Cranes, but still minor. The last W5 which was a stock block unbushed I did, still needed to restrict the pushrods at .040, and still PLENTY of oil up top. I think the .028-.040 hole for bushings is more than enough, unless a street combination, which I have used .050 without issue.
My W9 motor has .028" holes in the busing, .030" restrictor tips in pushrods, T&D rocker, Crane Ultra Pro's with .210" offset intakes, the oil hole in lifter never lines up with hole in bushing anywhere during it's travel & it still gets more than enough oil up top.... It's like what the hell. LOL
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Re: W-5 Question
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I agree with Ryan, go for the Cranes ( about $100 more)if you can, but I have used the 8043's and Brians, which are the same now in the Comp line,and they work fine.The rivets almost always will be an issue witht he Cranes, but still minor. The last W5 which was a stock block unbushed I did, still needed to restrict the pushrods at .040, and still PLENTY of oil up top. I think the .028-.040 hole for bushings is more than enough, unless a street combination, which I have used .050 without issue.
This engine is going in my Rampage for drag week
so yeah its a street car
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I'll look into the rollers... I'm still not sure
if I'm going roller or flat tappet yet but I do have
a couple of roller cams
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Re: W-5 Question
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No I decided it would be to hard to look around all the time... plus the wife will be driving it so I figured it would be just a better daily driver... I think I'll put the blower up for sale
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Re: W-5 Question
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While we have absolutely no idea why... the Comp Cam roller lifters we used in my dads W5 engine cracked the bodies on a few of them after we tore it down due to a pourous head. That was around 50 passes. Currently we are using the roller lifters Brian at IMM sells. Bad part? Some whacko valve train harmonics? ....who knows.
What kind of price tag on Brians lifter ( PM me if you
want)
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