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Black top racing ???? #870748
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Hey Guy's....Greetings to all...
I have a Question to whom may have some old school
Black top Street Racing Techniques .......(Question is.......................
Would VHT Track Bite work well on Black top ???
or would just plane water be best.....
Again,.....this is for anyone whom may have raced
in the streets in the past ........
Thanks to whom my be Helpul with this Topic on Black top Street Racing .........
even though, i think most members on here mainly
Track Race ...................I Asume.

Re: Black top racing ???? [Re: Dustin71] #870749
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vht

Re: Black top racing ???? [Re: Dustin71] #870750
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Buy some big tires and do some testing on the surfaces in similar conditions that you will compete on I have two sets of tires mounted up on similar rims,(same brand and style, one set of ten inch and one set of twelve inch ) both are the same size M/T ET Street DOT tires, one set is the radials ET Streets and the other stet is the bias ply ET Street Tires, the bias plys work better on the street and the radails are faster on a good track My car runs low tens on pump gas corked up on motor only, 3450 lbs with me in it


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Re: Black top racing ???? [Re: Cab_Burge] #870751
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VHT ............


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Re: Black top racing ???? [Re: Ari440] #870752
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I guess the concrete spot is gone. Watch vht in the cold weather.

Re: Black top racing ???? [Re: Dustin71] #870753
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Believe it or not, plain old Coca Cola and a tiny little bit of water mixed in.
After the burn out, like in any run, make sure to get right on top of that smoldering patch with your rear tires.

Re: Black top racing ???? [Re: fullmetaljacket] #870754
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I've heard that back in the days, Rosin (not resin)was used to make a good 60'. It could be carried in a car and burnt in in about 1 minute. Of course I don't condone street racing.

Re: Black top racing ???? [Re: Cudajon] #870755
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white lyme works also..(only in DRY track)
but you have to burn out over it..
and blow off the excess dust..
otherwise vht..

good luck
chpst


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Re: Black top racing ???? [Re: cheapstreetdustr] #870756
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Back in the day we would have one of our buddies go to the race site and prep about 100' of our lane with with VHT using a garden sprayer. Advantage Mopar

Re: Black top racing ???? [Re: Dustin71] #870757
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I for one LOVE street racing and we always use(d)VHT and did several burn outs in the lane we chose(the other guy was on his own)then staged in FRONT of the puddle and let er rip. Very few cars dead hook on the street ESPECIALLY the higher powered ones finess and knowing your car`s limits/advantages are the keys in my opinin.

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Re: Black top racing ???? [Re: Thumperdart] #870758
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Back a long time ago we would use vinegar. Soak the tires down the day prior to the race and just use water the night to burnout with. The Vinegar seemed to soften the rubber enough to bite a little better than anything we tried before.


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Back in the late 70's and early 80's I ran pro-trac soft compound tires soaked in VHT. We used to race near the Pittsburgh airport on a back road...what a ball!!!! I beat a lot of cars faster then me because I could hook quicker than most.

Re: Black top racing ???? [Re: MagnumDartSport] #870760
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For the street, vht,
my car hook just like
at da track. I didn't
street race, that was
for testing. I don't
believe in $treet raccing.




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Re: Black top racing ???? [Re: Kiner] #870761
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Quote:

I guess the concrete spot is gone. Watch vht in the cold weather.


Thanks for everyones .....
very helpful with this.....
i did go out and tryed it with water only ...
under 40*weather.... on black top..........
quess what ????? it worked....
won't say it dead hooked but it did leave hard and striaght.......
for those that dont know.......
it was with Caltrac's on the car.....
it's said that it will hook on ICE ..lol.....
but again....Thank's fellas .....
love how Mopar Rules.....

Re: Black top racing ???? [Re: Ari440] #870762
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Quote:

VHT ............



Thanks Ari .....
you know that someone told me that you can apply VHT directly to the tire,....but not on the groung on black top....

Re: Black top racing ???? [Re: Dustin71] #870763
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Pimp Juice Traction Compound:

405-208-9201 Should get you in touch.

My deceased Valiant broke several drive line parts on the street using this stuff.

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Ever stick your hand on a puddle of dried Coca Cola on a hot day?
One word. Bubble gum.

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Quote:

Ever stick your hand on a puddle of dried Coca Cola on a hot day?
One word. Bubble gum.


Hey Buddy,....Hows everything ???............ will it work out in the cold ????

Re: Black top racing ???? [Re: Dustin71] #870766
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Prep with vht the day before. The alcohol needs to evaporate out of it. I thought you retired.

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Quote:

Ever stick your hand on a puddle of dried Coca Cola on a hot day?
One word. Bubble gum.




It's been awhile but I remember the write up on your car & it's purpose.


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