Re: Painting engine
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12/03/10 01:10 PM
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You will get all kinds of comments about how if you want to do it right, you need to spray it with a gun. I have always used Plastikote engine enamel (Hemi Orange) and been very pleased. It is true that the spray bombs aren't as durable BUT there are some advantages as well; - obviously easier and cheaper though that didn't really push me one way or the other - you can paint individual components separately, easily, at any time and have everything match up - if you do need to touch something up down the road, again; easy and it matches - some of the spray booth engines look WAY too shiney and perfect to me. It's easy to do a better job than the factory with a spray bomb as it is. Anyway, just another point of view before the "paint it properly with a gun" advice starts. Dave
1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack
1974 'Cuda
2008 Ram 3500 Diesel
2006 Ram 3500 Diesel
2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel
2003 Ram 3500 Diesel
2006 Durango Limited
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Re: Painting engine
[Re: MOPARMIKE69]
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12/03/10 01:53 PM
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I for one have had excellent results with the Mopar engine paint. I'm not familiar with what the complaints are, but mine has held up just fine, no peeling or chipping anywhere. It did yellow slightly on one area of the head, so I may touch that up someday, but it's not overly noticable.
With paint there is so much failure or success possible depending on the prep work and technique. Some paint could peel right off and get a terrible review just becuase the person didn't know what they were doing.
My 440 took three full cans to paint, including the intake, valve covers, oil pan water pump etc.
very clever dinner. appetizing food fit neatly into interesting round pie.
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Re: Painting engine
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12/05/10 05:05 PM
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I always use primer first either way.
What kind of primer do you use with the Plastikote? Do you think it is necessary?
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Re: Painting engine
[Re: Gavin]
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12/06/10 10:12 AM
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I never use primer on the engine. Never had a problem.
69 Road Runner vert 69 GTX hard top 70 Road Runner 4 speed 70 Hemi Cuda vert
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Re: Painting engine
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#870221
12/06/10 01:14 PM
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I stumbled across this stuff. It's one of the best aerosol can spray paints I've ever used on anything. It has beautiful coverage, flow and finish durability. A bit pricey, but it gives outstanding results. Click on these links to learn more. http://www.hirschauto.com/prodinfo.asp?number=EEA-SPRAY&variation=CHRY%20HM%20ORhttp://www.hirschauto.com/engine.pdfAs far as preparation goes. I typically use that Castrol Purple water soluable engine degreaser with a scrub brush and hot water from the water heater to really get it clean before painting. Mask off what you don't want sprayed, and use a light coat or two and then finish with a medium wet coat. Should take about 3 cans to do a really nice job, but you can probably get away with 2 cans.
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's 1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
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Re: Painting engine
[Re: MOPARMIKE69]
#870223
12/06/10 09:35 PM
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I never use primer on the engine. Never had a problem.
I've never used primer either (neither did the factory) I simply spray one very light coat first and let it tack up to help the first heavy coat stick.
Dave
1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack
1974 'Cuda
2008 Ram 3500 Diesel
2006 Ram 3500 Diesel
2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel
2003 Ram 3500 Diesel
2006 Durango Limited
[url] http://1970superbee.piczo.com [/url]
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Re: Painting engine
[Re: DPelletier]
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12/06/10 09:47 PM
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I never use primer on the engine. Never had a problem.
I've never used primer either (neither did the factory) I simply spray one very light coat first and let it tack up to help the first heavy coat stick.
Dave
Same here.
Plasti-kote #226 is what I use.
Cans are nice in that you can easily touch up something if you need to later.
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Re: Painting engine
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12/07/10 12:50 PM
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I just finished painting my 70 440 with the Mopar Performance spray bombs. Everything went just fine. I got the entire base motor completed and it looked great to me....took two cans. I then went on to paint some of the bolt ons (dip stick tube, plug wire brackets etc. This was with a new can of same type paint. Low and behold.... the color and gloss was completely different in the last can which was from a different lot of paint that I purchased. Had to do the entire engine in a final coat again so everything would match. Bottom line on the Mopar Paint... there can be a significant difference in color from lot to lot. Remains to be seen how well it will hold up once the engine is put into use.
70 Road Runner 383-4 4 speed FJ5 & black guts 70 Charger R/T 440-4 4 speed FJ5 & white guts
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Re: Painting engine
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#870227
12/11/10 03:02 PM
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THESHAKERPROJECT
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Do you spray the paint with the Preval sprayer as it comes from Badalson (don't need to thin or anything)?
Also any insight into durability of the product?
Thanks
You MUST reduce the paint from Frank befor you spray it from any gun or preval sprayer...its PPG DAR Delstar acrylic enamel sold by the pint. I usually reduce it by 30% for painting a motor with the preval sprayer and it covers and flows out well. This paint has been on another engin since 97 and never flakes off.
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Re: Painting engine
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#870228
12/11/10 03:33 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms
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Do you spray the paint with the Preval sprayer as it comes from Badalson (don't need to thin or anything)?
Also any insight into durability of the product?
Thanks
I painted this engine with Franks paint back around 1991(bare cast iron, meticulously cleaned and degreased, no primer). IMO the prep is 80-90% of the secret when it comes to durability. This is how it looked last year with some light driving to shows over the years.
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