Mopar performance chassis guide....
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is this book still known as the holy grail of mopar suspension technology?? I am trying to work on bumpsteer issues and have seen information about it in the chassis book, and was wondering. 
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Re: Mopar performance chassis guide....
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11/26/10 08:31 PM
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Yep Billy Bob  , going to be doing the same thing this winter & that will be my guide of referance  Do you have a copy?
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Re: Mopar performance chassis guide....
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is this book still known as the holy grail of mopar suspension technology??
I am trying to work on bumpsteer issues and have seen information about it in the chassis book, and was wondering.
I learned that a good old school front end shop can handle it much better. especially if they have modern equipment.
I figure since I gutted everything on the front and re assembled it, then how bad can I screw it up by reading a book  thank god I have one of those shop's here in town, but I want to get it as close as I can by myself.
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Re: Mopar performance chassis guide....
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is this book still known as the holy grail of mopar suspension technology??
I am trying to work on bumpsteer issues and have seen information about it in the chassis book, and was wondering.
I learned that a good old school front end shop can handle it much better. especially if they have modern equipment.
I figure since I gutted everything on the front and re assembled it, then how bad can I screw it up by reading a book thank god I have one of those shop's here in town, but I want to get it as close as I can by myself.
For Bump steer use the MP Chassis manuel. In 96 when I was working on my Bump steer, I called Every/Alot of the alignment shops in " Canton, Ohio"
None of them knew what Bump Steer was. 
Camber,Caster,Toe is all they knew.
The MP chassis manuel is great for a stock rear steer mopar. If you have a front rack its a different story. mike
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Re: Mopar performance chassis guide....
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is this book still known as the holy grail of mopar suspension technology??
I am trying to work on bumpsteer issues and have seen information about it in the chassis book, and was wondering.
I learned that a good old school front end shop can handle it much better. especially if they have modern equipment.
That's what I did, read the book, rebuilt the front end, then took it to a old school guy [ who drag race's ] who knew how drag cars should be set up. For a one handed driver it was just what I needed. 
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Re: Mopar performance chassis guide....
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for us mortals yes but thge SS/HA and serious SS/ Stockers have long moved past that point. They use relocated upper A arm attachment points. these allow the A arm to follow a verticle path similar to a strut without changing a thing.The A arm plane is on the same as the T bar .
This was done to my Duster back in 1972 but not known in general. My car maintains exactly the same setting on the ground or with the wheels hanging. There is not a .1 a degree diference
Care to share any pictures Fred  
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Re: Mopar performance chassis guide....
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The trouble is that bump steer usually can not be adjusted out with simple alignment changes. Most often you will either have to shim the steering box/move the idler arm pivot angle. The other adjustment would be bending the steering arms up/down or in/out as needed to correct toe change. You should have your camber and caster correct first. Adding positive caster lowers the outer tie rod attaching points. I recently aligned the old Defrank SS/AA B029 Cuda. The K-frame had been moved forward with new attaching holes in front of the O.E. frame holes. It made 5 degrees of caster a breeze.
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