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Alternator #863689
11/26/10 12:00 AM
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I put one of those monster fans on my 68R/T and what size alternator do I need to get or kit to add to mine to make it put out more and say cheapest.

Re: Alternator [Re: 68 R/T] #863690
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How many amps does the fan use ?

Re: Alternator [Re: 68 R/T] #863691
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Maybe the late 70's (80's?) 78 amp unit. or better yet one of the non Mopar ones that have been recommended (on here). I'd use relays & power it from the alt side which'd keep the load out of the bulkhead


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Re: Alternator [Re: gtx69] #863692
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it takes like 50 amps to start and 37 to run. can you change ampes to volts

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What monster fan are you talking about? Do you have a picture of the fan?

Re: Alternator [Re: gtx69] #863694
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cheapest is the 89 m-body alt.
not the cop car, just regular square back.
78 amps and only 50 bucks at the regular parts store.

Re: Alternator [Re: 68 R/T] #863695
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There are several paths you can take, some are simple upgrades that work well for stock electrical systems, others are a bit more involved but can handle anything from a little bit more electrical load to dramatically more electrical load, especially at idle. It's best to put in a system that meets or exceeds your actual needs, while keeping in mind "the weakest link" concept.

Power output from all Mopar and many traditional replacement alternators such as some of the japanese types commonly used is notoriously poor at idle rpm.

The best option i've found for my electrical needs is a late model Delco-Remy CS144 alternator. It bolts right on with a simple bracket adaptor, puts out over 100 amps at idle out of the box, is heavy-duty, affordable and easy to source.

I'm adding several power hungry accesories to my 1970, A/C, two high amp electric fans, a powerful Performance Engineering fuel pump, aftermarket ignition and a few other goodies; and I wanted even more power at idle and low rpm, so I had the CS144 i'm using upgraded with a heavier duty voltage regulator & bridge rectifier and a rewound stator.

It's now capable of putting out over 115 amps at a slow idle and over 170 amps at moderate speeds, but only provides what's needed. It also has remote voltage sensing, so the trunk mounted battery gets full voltage to compensate for the voltage drop in the long run of cable to the trunk. Yes, it's a bit overkill, but so is the rest of the car.

I'm running a 2 gauge cable with a 200 amp fuse from the alternator to my main electrical distribution block under the hood. I'm still in the process of building/upgrading the rest of the electrical system in the car to handle the new electrical power needs and safely feed the original electrical loads such as instruments, lights etc.

I found that using marine grade electrical components and reading the information at Mad Electrical has helped a lot in my quest to use quality parts to upgrade and enhance the safety and performance of my old Mopar.

Re: Alternator [Re: 68 R/T] #863696
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Quote:

I put one of those monster fans on my 68R/T and what size alternator do I need to get or kit to add to mine to make it put out more and say cheapest.


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Re: Alternator [Re: 68 R/T] #863697
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If you read the compete posts it talks about alternator in the post also.I know because i have some posts in there also.Read all the posts do a search for merecdes

Re: Alternator [Re: gtx69] #863698
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I run the 130 amp alternator off a 5.2 Magnum engine. It came straight outta the junk yard. If you do that, be sure to find one with the V-belt pulley and NOT the serpentine belt pulley.
I power the fan directly off the alternator. A 10 gauge wire runs from the output terminal of the alternator to a 60 amp fuse block like this one:



It then runs to the fan. The ground wire runs to the core support.

If you're running one of the aftermarket fans, be careful. The type with the heat sink (top in the photo) don't like to run for more than 10 or 15 minutes without a PWM controller. The fan on the bottom will be fine.



Hooziewhatsit is building a fan controller for the aftermarket/early style fans. The controller is days away from heavy testing. It'll be fairly cheap and available SOON.


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