Re: Tips on assembling socketless hose?
[Re: davenc]
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11/21/10 01:44 AM
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I use nothing but the Aeroquip hose with a true heat gun not a hair dryer and have 0 problems getting the fittings in.You have to heat the hose back far enough to equal the fitting length
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Re: Tips on assembling socketless hose?
[Re: dusturbd340W5]
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11/21/10 12:48 PM
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No need to use hot water or a heat gun. Made hundreds of push on hose assemblies and only used 80-90w gear lube.
However, I will say that Aeroquip ends are the worst push on fittings to assemble from personal experience. The barbs are bigger when compared to others and takes a little more effort to get the hose to seat.
Connect a fitting to the hose end and secure it in a vise for a better base to push against. The most important part is to make sure you coat the barbs with plenty of lube. Give the hose a little wiggle from side to side as you push the hose over the barbs and you should be able to slide it right on.
Yes, it is a little like pushing rope, but once you get the hang of it (individual technique and a few F bombs) it becomes a snap.
sure you can get them on without heating the hose but it makes it so much easier why not do it they just slide right on no wiggling no F-Bombs
True, and you can also use a sledgehammer to pound in finish nails. Not the best tool or technique, but it still gets the job done.
Plenty of lube in the hose and on the barbs will get the job done.
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Re: Tips on assembling socketless hose?
[Re: dusturbd340W5]
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11/21/10 04:10 PM
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No need to use hot water or a heat gun. Made hundreds of push on hose assemblies and only used 80-90w gear lube.
However, I will say that Aeroquip ends are the worst push on fittings to assemble from personal experience. The barbs are bigger when compared to others and takes a little more effort to get the hose to seat.
Connect a fitting to the hose end and secure it in a vise for a better base to push against. The most important part is to make sure you coat the barbs with plenty of lube. Give the hose a little wiggle from side to side as you push the hose over the barbs and you should be able to slide it right on.
Yes, it is a little like pushing rope, but once you get the hang of it (individual technique and a few F bombs) it becomes a snap.
sure you can get them on without heating the hose but it makes it so much easier why not do it they just slide right on no wiggling no F-Bombs
True, and you can also use a sledgehammer to pound in finish nails. Not the best tool or technique, but it still gets the job done.
Plenty of lube in the hose and on the barbs will get the job done.
sure you can also roll a flat tire but it is easier if you put air in it and heating the hose has no adverse affects on it but to each there own I chose the easy way.
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Re: Tips on assembling socketless hose?
[Re: Jeremiah]
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11/21/10 06:33 PM
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The water I used was just from the tap on the hottest setting. If you are having trouble perhaps try some WD40 or some other cheap lubricant. It does take lots of grunt on my part but they always go together. The only reason I did not use oil is because it is messy and slippery. I'd imagine that works just fine.
Slippery....that is the reason gear oil works just fine.
Heat, no heat, hot water, no water....whatever works for you is fine. Just saying that working in the hyd hose and fitting world since 99 and not once during mfg training or real world experience has a heat gun or hot water been advised or used for socketless(push-on fittings). We always had the correct tools (pushers and mandrels)to do the job and maybe that is where the difference lays here.
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Re: Tips on assembling socketless hose?
[Re: jb500]
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11/21/10 11:56 PM
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The water I used was just from the tap on the hottest setting. If you are having trouble perhaps try some WD40 or some other cheap lubricant. It does take lots of grunt on my part but they always go together. The only reason I did not use oil is because it is messy and slippery. I'd imagine that works just fine.
Slippery....that is the reason gear oil works just fine.
Heat, no heat, hot water, no water....whatever works for you is fine. Just saying that working in the hyd hose and fitting world since 99 and not once during mfg training or real world experience has a heat gun or hot water been advised or used for socketless(push-on fittings). We always had the correct tools (pushers and mandrels)to do the job and maybe that is where the differnece lays here.
The correct tools would be the way to go for certain. I think the main reason I tried the hot water was when we were working in a unheated area during the winter (~40 ambient temp prior to firing the heater system.) If I were to do more work of this sort I'd invest in the proper tools but for the five or six hoses I do a year it's not economical.
Thank you for your advice! It's always good to hear tips from a pro.
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Re: Tips on assembling socketless hose?
[Re: Jeremiah]
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11/23/10 12:47 AM
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The water I used was just from the tap on the hottest setting. If you are having trouble perhaps try some WD40 or some other cheap lubricant. It does take lots of grunt on my part but they always go together. The only reason I did not use oil is because it is messy and slippery. I'd imagine that works just fine.
Slippery....that is the reason gear oil works just fine.
Heat, no heat, hot water, no water....whatever works for you is fine. Just saying that working in the hyd hose and fitting world since 99 and not once during mfg training or real world experience has a heat gun or hot water been advised or used for socketless(push-on fittings). We always had the correct tools (pushers and mandrels)to do the job and maybe that is where the differnece lays here.
The correct tools would be the way to go for certain. I think the main reason I tried the hot water was when we were working in a unheated area during the winter (~40 ambient temp prior to firing the heater system.) If I were to do more work of this sort I'd invest in the proper tools but for the five or six hoses I do a year it's not economical.
Thank you for your advice! It's always good to hear tips from a pro.
Thanks for the pat on the back. Pro...not so much, hack....maybe.
For what it is worth...I started out with Gates LOL-6 for a fuel line in 06 and that junk is now in the trash can. Got hard and brittle. Don't know if it was from the current gas chemistry or what, but I went to PTFE hose and will never have to worry about it again.
If anyone would like to make the change or needs a little advice....pm me and I will be glad to help.
I also posted a pic of what I put together for my carb feed line using industrial tube fittings.
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