I have a 56 plym with a 277 poly/powerfilte/pushbutton and was thinking of replacing it with a 318 poly.

I found 3 poly 318's for sale.
from a 66 belv
63 plym with torqueflite
65 dodge 318, pushbutton from a 2wd truck.

Do all 318 poly's mount the same as the 277?
I know as some point the 318 ran a generator and then the head changed to accomodate an alternator? What year is which?
When was the last torqueflite with pushbuttons and a trans mounted parking brake?
Any issue bolting my powerflite that's on the 277 to a 318?
I'm assuming truck pan is different than car pan, could I use my 277 pan? Is truck trans different mounting points than a car trans?

In the end I'd like a 318 poly with a push button torqueflite and a trans mounted parking brake. If no trans parking brake, than a push button and I'd swap to a 8 3/4 rear.

Thanks,
Nick

I cannot answer most of your questions.
but out of the choices you list, the 65 with torqueflight is your best choice if you want to keep the push button setup.

It will not have the ball and trunion that the 63 has, and the 66 will not be cable operated.

None of those are old enough to have had a generator. I have actually owned 2 out of the 3 in cars at some point.

Someone bought the poly 318 out of my coronet for his truck, but I think he was reusing his pan, but not sure.

I was hoping to continue running the push button setup so the car would appear stock.

62 Chryslers had an aluminum pushbutton Torqueflite with the park brake on the tailshaft. I'm not aware of any other car aluminum Torqueflites with the tailshaft-mounted park brake, don't know about trucks/whatever.

62 Chryslers were all big block, though, so a 62 Chrysler trans wouldn't bolt up to a poly 318. However, the mainshaft/extension housing etc. could be swapped from the 62 Chrysler trans to a small block pushbutton 727 torqueflite. You would need to swap the 62 backing plate for a 56 Plymouth backing plate and then use a 56 Plymouth park cable. The foot-operated 62 Chrysler park cable won't work with a 56 Plymouth park brake pull handle.

The aluminum Torqueflite shift cable will hook to the original 56 Powerflite shift assembly, and I'm about 97% sure you could adjust it to work with a 3-speed Torqueflite, albeit you won't be able to manually engage low gear. Haven't tried that particular setup, but I do have a 62 Chrysler torqueflite in my 59 Dodge, and the 62 shift cable hooks up to my 59 Dodge 3-speed pushbutton assembly no problem, so I know that works (you won't be able to use a Powerflite or iron Torqueflite cable with an aluminum Torqueflite, as the trans end is different).

Alternatively, you could do what I plan to do with my 56 Plymouth: swap in an early (pre-62) 318 with the extended crank flange, and hook it to the original 56 Powerflite. Or, if you want a 3-speed trans, find an early (pre-62) cast-iron torqueflite and hook it to that.

I've seen a 64 D100 with a 318 and a pushbutton TF. It had no Park, only a tail mounted E-brake. You could hunt around for a 56 Pymouth Torqueflite pushbutton shift quadrant.

Kevin

I was thinking some trucks had the trans mounted park brake.

Can't use a 56 Plymouth Torqueflite pushbutton setup, though. Torqueflites weren't available on Plymouths or Dodges until 1957.

Now maybe you could adapt some other model's torqueflite pushbutton setup to a 56 Plymouth dash, but I can't say how easy/hard that would be.

Pretty sure they were in Canada. I've seen a 56 Dodge with the Torqueflite script on the trunk lid.

Kevin

I think my options are to take a torqueflite up til 65 and if it doesn't have the tailshaft brake, I'd have to change my rear diff (which I was thinking of doing anyway)
I also have to go look, I thought there was an adapter plate to put a later 727 behind a poly (I happen to have a good 727) and then Imperial services makes and adapter to be able to cable shift a 727. I'll have to price that out.
From what I've read lately, the truck 3 speed was a loadflite. I don't know the differences though.

62 and later dodge and plymouth do not have the brake drum on the tailshaft on the trans.The chrysler car will.The small block trans off of a later poly or 318 727 or 904 trans will bolt up.The 65 trans will work would have to change driveshaft has the slip yoke or you can use the earlier trans 62-64 small block push button and change the end to a slip yoke.

Ok, I'm back to work on this project and picked up and engine and trans from a 64 Polara.
Man am I confused.
Here's what I'm trying to do.
I have a 56 Plymouth with a 2 speed powerflite push button shifter.
I'm putting in a 318 with a 727.
Not sure how to go about the 727 shifting.
I have two 727 transmissions.

a 64 that came from a console shifted car with the cables. I assumed that I could use this transmission with pushbuttons, but after looking at an ebay auction, http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...atchlink:top:en
It looks like I need to convert that trans to be able to use pushbuttons.

I have a 727 that was in my Volare that was being shifted by an aftermarket shifter.

My questions are
Assuming I buy the conversion to convert the the 64 trans to pushbutton. Can I adjust my 2 speed cables to shift the 727. Assuming I would never be able to shift into 1st manually. I just need P,R,N,D and I can make a separate lever hidden for the park cable.

I think that 65 Dodge had a 3 speed push button setup that fits in the same dash housing at my 56, I just need to verify and find one. If that's the case, can I get 64 dodge pushbutton cables and install them into the 65 housing and shift the trans.

Or, can I use the later 727 and use an imperial services conversion to either make my 2 speed buttons work or the 65 buttons work. I have a tech email into them....That conversion alone is $400, but does come with new cables.
Part of me says if I can get this setup to work it would be better as if I need a trans down the road for something, the post 66 727's should be alot easier to find than pre 66.

But the cables and conversion to get some used 64 cables and a conversion kit to make the trans push button shiftable is $250.

Anyone been thorough this?

The other question I have is if I get the pushbutton trans all installed in the car, but don't have a driveshaft in. How do I tell if the car is in drive, neutral or reverse. If I try to spin the back of the trans, won't it always spin because of the torque converter slip?
I don't want to go through the expense of getting a driveshaft made if I can't shift the car. Because the two 727 trans have different yokes at the trans. One is ball/trunion and the other is slip yoke.

Thanks,
Nick

If you use a Torqueflite pushbutton shifter from a 57-59 Dodge truck, the mechanism will install into your 1956 Plymouth shift pod like the original, and it will throw the cable so you get LOW. Hard to find these, and I just sold one for $275.

57 Chrysler might be close for the PB pod also.They used the same one from 57 to at least 59.Its small and might need a few minor mods to fit in the hole you have.Rocky