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69 Hemi master cylinder cover?? #856928
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Anyone know what color the cover is supposed to be on a 69 hemi m/c cover. I thought some shade of light gold. Thanks Eric


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Re: 69 Hemi master cylinder cover?? [Re: Dr V] #856929
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drum brakes - yellow zinc di-chromate

disc brakes - yellow zinc di-chromate - but painted gloss black with the power brake booster

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Bill, it is a power disc car, So all gloss black for m/c, lid, and booster then?


69 1/2 A12 BEE 4 spd
1968 Charger 383
1970 Roadrunner 440+6 Survivor
2019 Redeye
2005 FORD GT Red/White
2017 Viper ACR Extreme Red/White
1979 Branco Red/Red
2018 Porsche GT3 Miami
1971 440+6 Cuda 4 speed V2
2020 Sebring Orange Vette
1979 Chevy Boogie Hippie Van
Re: 69 Hemi master cylinder cover?? [Re: Dr V] #856931
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painted as a unit so no nice pretty white gasket between.

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Were the brackets assembled on the rear of the booster before paint? I mean all pins, pivots, and brackets would have been assembled before paint up to the firewall reinforcement plate? Or would the offset brackets and pivot(fulcrum) have been added after paint so the nuts and pins would not be painted? Actually as I type(slowly) I realize they probably(speculation) would have been assembled after paint since other BB cars without the offset also got this booster and MC.
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Re: 69 Hemi master cylinder cover?? [Re: gtx6970] #856933
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drum brakes - yellow zinc di-chromate

disc brakes - yellow zinc di-chromate - but painted gloss black with the power brake booster




Yes Bill and I painted my bendix booster and master cylinder set up on my 71 hemi cuda clone just like the factory did it as an assembly and the judges at the Nats deducted points for not having a plated master cylinder cap.
The master cylinder caps were painted just like the rest of the assembly. But we have no recourse
on final judgement calls ?

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Were the brackets assembled on the rear of the booster before paint? I mean all pins, pivots, and brackets would have been assembled before paint up to the firewall reinforcement plate? Or would the offset brackets and pivot(fulcrum) have been added after paint so the nuts and pins would not be painted? Actually as I type(slowly) I realize they probably(speculation) would have been assembled after paint since other BB cars without the offset also got this booster and MC.
Brad

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Although similar in appearence Hemi Boosters are unique to hemi cars.
and I'm 99% sure the brackets and all were painted as an assembly with the booster.

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Were the brackets assembled on the rear of the booster before paint? I mean all pins, pivots, and brackets would have been assembled before paint up to the firewall reinforcement plate? Or would the offset brackets and pivot(fulcrum) have been added after paint so the nuts and pins would not be painted? Actually as I type(slowly) I realize they probably(speculation) would have been assembled after paint since other BB cars without the offset also got this booster and MC.
Brad



The NOS hemi booster assembly with the offset bracket I had was painted as an assembly altogether. Brad the Hemi boosters have the larger 3/8 studs in the back especially for the hemi raised offset brackets. The big block cars that received a bendix booster for power front disc were 5/16 studded boosters and were not used on hemi cars. The hemi cars were rasied bracket 3/8 stud booster only. The 5/16 and 3/8 studded boosters also have a different size stud pattern.

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Re: 69 Hemi master cylinder cover?? [Re: MLR426] #856936
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Ha, Beat ya

But I agree with you if that matters

Also,,,,,I think the non hemi 67 B-body disc brake cars use a similar style if not the same booster and brackets as hemi cars

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Ha, Beat ya

But I agree with you if that matters

Also,,,,,I think the non hemi 67 B-body disc brake cars use a similar style if not the same booster and brackets as hemi cars





yea ya did ha ha

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Ha, Beat ya

But I agree with you if that matters

Also,,,,,I think the non hemi 67 B-body disc brake cars use a similar style if not the same booster and brackets as hemi cars




almost , non hemi cars didn't have a bracket in the rear , the booster mounts directly to the firewall reinforcement plate .




Sorry John... but he is correct. I have seen many ( and removed them ) on non-hemi 67 cars with disc brakes. FYI to all... those 66-67 Hemi boosters have a different looking vacuum port. It has 2 pc. lock nut looking connection rather than a grommet and push in valve. To answer than OP.... the hemi units were painted as a complete assembly with the linkage and all hanging off the back. As far as the Nats judges not knowing squat... I can believe that! When I had my 70 Hemi POWER DRUM brake Charger judged at Carlisle they said my painted drum MC was incorrect. They thought that ALL drum brake cars should be natural metal. Which is true, EXCEPT for POWER BRAKE HEMI CARS.

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Ha, Beat ya

But I agree with you if that matters

Also,,,,,I think the non hemi 67 B-body disc brake cars use a similar style if not the same booster and brackets as hemi cars




almost , non hemi cars didn't have a bracket in the rear , the booster mounts directly to the firewall reinforcement plate .




ooooahhhh


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Had a real nice original 67 coronet wagon 383 with pdb and it had the same master cylinder set up as my 67 hemi R/T


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Ha, Beat ya

But I agree with you if that matters

Also,,,,,I think the non hemi 67 B-body disc brake cars use a similar style if not the same booster and brackets as hemi cars




almost , non hemi cars didn't have a bracket in the rear , the booster mounts directly to the firewall reinforcement plate .




Sorry John... but he is correct. I have seen many ( and removed them ) on non-hemi 67 cars with disc brakes. FYI to all... those 66-67 Hemi boosters have a different looking vacuum port. It has 2 pc. lock nut looking connection rather than a grommet and push in valve. To answer than OP.... the hemi units were painted as a complete assembly with the linkage and all hanging off the back. As far as the Nats judges not knowing squat... I can believe that! When I had my 70 Hemi POWER DRUM brake Charger judged at Carlisle they said my painted drum MC was incorrect. They thought that ALL drum brake cars should be natural metal. Which is true, EXCEPT for POWER BRAKE HEMI CARS.




Didn't realize that 67 was different than the 68-70 Disc brake , non hemi cars

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Thanks guys. I forgot about the larger stud size on Hemi boosters. Maybe this thread should go to the Tech Archives.

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And after all that I got the answer that I needed too. Thanks again gang.


69 1/2 A12 BEE 4 spd
1968 Charger 383
1970 Roadrunner 440+6 Survivor
2019 Redeye
2005 FORD GT Red/White
2017 Viper ACR Extreme Red/White
1979 Branco Red/Red
2018 Porsche GT3 Miami
1971 440+6 Cuda 4 speed V2
2020 Sebring Orange Vette
1979 Chevy Boogie Hippie Van
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Bill, it is a power disc car, So all gloss black for m/c, lid, and booster then?




Can I ask about a '69 440 GTX with power disc brakes...............because I have a photo of the engine bay that I'm pretty sure was never touched (painted) and it has the power brake master cylinder and lid painted black like you stated. Note the brake lines exit the master cylinder on the passenger's side which I'm told is correct for a power disc '69 B-body at least?

Is all black correct for a '69 GTX 440 (4-speed if that even matters)? thanks.

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Not pretty but I'm fairly sure everything there is original well except for a radiator hose, distributor cap, maybe the ground cable and the power steering fluid

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Is all black correct for a '69 GTX 440 with power disc brakes? (4-speed if that even matters)? thanks.





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