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Re: 1966 Time Capsule opened at BGR
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11/21/10 07:33 PM
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see anything unusual?
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Was that the special prototype built on valentine's day 1925????
Can we get this thread moved into the restoration section please
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Re: 1966 Time Capsule opened at BGR
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11/21/10 07:33 PM
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That's an engine lifting bracket typically found on either the front or rear of the engine
Correct,they were very seldom left on the engine. 
Just one question  When these were originally assembled , wasn't the engine / transmission , K-member & front suspension installed from the BOTTOM"?" If so ...... Why the need for the "lifting bracket" ? Was it from when it was lifted onto the K-frame? 
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Re: 1966 Time Capsule opened at BGR
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11/21/10 07:38 PM
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Bob: Nice job, looks like a great original car! Don't see too many with the original lifting bracket, that is for sure. FWIW: While it's nice to know and is good for internet fodder, the world doesn't necessarily need anymore tedious documentation of original survivors. There are countless originals that have been well documented over the years and just about all of what has needed to be determined regarding what is or isn't correct on these cars is now known. I am not saying to just close one's eyes and forget the details. It's just that they all need not be OEM nut and bolt resto's. It's frankly rather refreshing that this is going together not necessarily with the intent to be a historical preservation, but more for the sheer enjoyment of it's owner. Most OEM restos can barely wheeze themselves on and off the trailer and are rather poor representations of what the original intent of a street hemi should be. MB
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Re: 1966 Time Capsule opened at BGR
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11/21/10 07:51 PM
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Nice job, looks like a great original car! Don't see too many with the original lifting bracket, that is for sure.
FWIW:
While it's nice to know and is good for internet fodder, the world doesn't necessarily need anymore tedious documentation of original survivors. There are countless originals that have been well documented over the years and just about all of what has needed to be determined regarding what is or isn't correct on these cars is now known.
I am not saying to just close one's eyes and forget the details. It's just that they all need not be OEM nut and bolt resto's. It's frankly rather refreshing that this is going together not necessarily with the intent to be a historical preservation, but more for the sheer enjoyment of it's owner. Most OEM restos can barely wheeze themselves on and off the trailer and are rather poor representations of what the original intent of a street hemi should be.
MB
We like the way you think  What purist can tell by looking at a engine what may lurk inside?   
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Re: 1966 Time Capsule opened at BGR
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11/21/10 07:53 PM
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BGR, for God's sakes, be sure not to disturb any of that irreplaceable date coded rust. I say, backhalf it and cage it, just to piss off the purists!
Gone to the dark side with an LS3 powered '57 Chevy 210
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Re: 1966 Time Capsule opened at BGR
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11/21/10 07:58 PM
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BGR, for God's sakes, be sure not to disturb any of that irreplaceable date coded rust.
I say, backhalf it chop the top 4" and cage it, just to piss off the purists!
made it better 
more ontopic, kind of intresting seeing how it was suposed to look from the factory even if im sure it was alot of diferences from car to car
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Re: 1966 Time Capsule opened at BGR
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11/21/10 08:06 PM
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I'm thinking F.A.S.T. series.
If you like drag racing, support your local track.
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Re: 1966 Time Capsule opened at BGR
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BGR, for God's sakes, be sure not to disturb any of that irreplaceable date coded rust.
I say, backhalf it and cage it, just to piss off the purists!
That would be too mundane,since I have already done that to hundereds of original Hemi cars over the years.I'am going to keep the expert,guru,purist wandering what evil we are contemplating.And as for the 1968 Hemi Dart and 1968 Hemi Cuda that have recently arrived for BGR who knows what fate may have instore for them     Have a Happy Thanksgiving everyone 
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Re: 1966 Time Capsule opened at BGR
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11/21/10 08:09 PM
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That would be too mundane,since I have already done that to hundereds of original Hemi cars over the years.
LMAO...
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Re: 1966 Time Capsule opened at BGR
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11/21/10 08:22 PM
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BGR, for God's sakes, be sure not to disturb any of that irreplaceable date coded rust.
I say, backhalf it and cage it, just to piss off the purists!
That would be too mundane,since I have already done that to hundreds of original Hemi cars over the years.I'am going to keep the expert,guru,purist wandering what evil we are contemplating.And as for the 1968 Hemi Dart and 1968 Hemi Cuda that have recently arrived for BGR who knows what fate may have instore for them Have a Happy Thanksgiving everyone
Somebody check on Scott Smith, he's going to need medical attention after reading that part! 
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Re: 1966 Time Capsule opened at BGR
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11/21/10 08:47 PM
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Bob, You do to that 1968 Hemi Cuda and I think the owner will  . It does need to have the 4 speed back in it though.
1959 Bugeye Sprite
1967 Charger Black L code
1967 Coronet R/T Convert Green 440 auto bought from original owner
1968 Charger R/T Bronze 440 4 spd console AM/FM
1969 Super Bee WM21H B5 A40 D21 N96
1969 Barracuda Formula S 340 Convert pilot car
1969 Hemi Road Runner RM23J D32 Omaha orange 4.10 Dana N96 N85
1970 Super Bee WM23N FE5 V1X 3.91 axle package, N96
1970 Road Runner RM21N B3 V1X D13
1971 MG Midget
1971 Road Runner RM23H GW3, A57
1972 Road Runner RM23P FY1, D21
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Re: 1966 Time Capsule opened at BGR
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11/21/10 08:49 PM
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BGR, for God's sakes, be sure not to disturb any of that irreplaceable date coded rust.
I say, backhalf it and cage it, just to piss off the purists!
That would be too mundane,since I have already done that to hundreds of original Hemi cars over the years.I'am going to keep the expert,guru,purist wandering what evil we are contemplating.And as for the 1968 Hemi Dart and 1968 Hemi Cuda that have recently arrived for BGR who knows what fate may have instore for them Have a Happy Thanksgiving everyone
Scott Smith will need medical attention after reading that part.
Not to disrespect anyone the sad part about this whole drama is of some of those who have chosen to assert their opinions on how Jim and BGR handle this car have other agendas.I appreciate those who love the cars and their concerns,but let some one step and try and save it from ruin at our hands,any offers?Some look to how they can profit from brokering a car like this making money off the buyer or saler while others would try and figure how to screw the owner through weeseling him out of the car or emptying his pockets for the restoration.Either way We have no use for those of that catagory.We respect all legitmate concerns and hope to share this experience with everyone.So until someone steps up and make a an attempt to lure Jim to sale his prized possession,cash or gold accepted we intend to proceed with a relationship of respect and trust between BGR and Jim.I can certainly speak for Jim and his words to me were the car is at the right place,in the right hands and he has all the faith and trust in BGR.That alone,money can;'t buy. Respectfully Bob
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Re: 1966 Time Capsule opened at BGR
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11/21/10 08:51 PM
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First of all I need to set something straight for you guys who don't know me very well (if at all). I don't take it "personally" or get "upset" when someone alters an original car, I just see it as a loss to the hobby in general when original details get lost in an uneducated restoration effort which effectively destroys original details that would be impossible to replicate if they are already disturbed or cleaned away by said effort. I'm a history buff and believe documenting what few originals are left is important to the future of the restoration hobby regardless of the purpose the car is used for AFTER the documentation work has been done. Also, restoring cars to O.E. condition, documenting originals, etc. is only a portion of my interest, and probably the segment of the hobby that I have the most experience with. However, I also enjoy modified cars very much and have owned and raced several race cars and street strip cars as well. So, as you might imagine I do see things clearly from both sides. Quote:
While it's nice to know and is good for internet fodder, the world doesn't necessarily need anymore tedious documentation of original survivors. There are countless originals that have been well documented over the years and just about all of what has needed to be determined regarding what is or isn't correct on these cars is now known.
Mike, I'm sorry but other than the larger more basic items I completely dissagree with you on that one, I've discovered and learned about new details with almost every survivor I have seen. To say "everything" has been documented already is simply not the case at all!
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Re: 1966 Time Capsule opened at BGR
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11/21/10 08:52 PM
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Bob, You do to that 1968 Hemi Cuda and I think the owner will . It does need to have the 4 speed back in it though.
But he said he trust me   
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Re: 1966 Time Capsule opened at BGR
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11/21/10 08:58 PM
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The 64 Million dollar question for the 1966 Hemi: What is it and Where was it found on the car?
Is that what that thing was. I modified one of those to use on my 1970 Opel Kadet. The window crank was missing and that thing worked like a charm. Keep up the good work Bob. Did you order the new holly carbs yet.
John,
I can get in enough trouble here on my own,you don't have to help and make it worse.   Don't forget after Dec 31 I'll be in the shop most everyday,stop by.
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Re: 1966 Time Capsule opened at BGR
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11/21/10 09:03 PM
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I was just trying to help a fellow racer out.
There is that ugly word"racer",you know I can do other things ,thanks John. 
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