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Lets hear some 8.50 combo's #853322
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I'm curious what you guys are doing to run 8.50's and what the car weighs and type of suspension, tire etc. I'm 99% sure I'm going BB on spray, but nothing is together yet. The car should weigh around 3,100 on CalTrac's.

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Re: Lets hear some 8.50 combo's [Re: Dart1031] #853323
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is this your new car ?

was it guppys old dart ?


I would like to know some 8.50s combos too!


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Re: Lets hear some 8.50 combo's [Re: Dart1031] #853324
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All motor short shifting and on the brakes


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Re: Lets hear some 8.50 combo's [Re: Dart1031] #853325
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Look at any SS/AH Hemi Dart $$$$$$$$ and let me know if you need any fiberglass for that Dart. We make it here at Sled City Fiberglass.

Re: Lets hear some 8.50 combo's [Re: Al_Alguire] #853326
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Re: Lets hear some 8.50 combo's [Re: Dart1031] #853327
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Any motor combo that will produce 800 hp and swallow 300 hp of nitrous will do the trick. That gives you a little room, as it takes about 1000 hp to run 8.50s at 3100 lbs.
With that goal, you can build in some reliability I would think. Maybe shoot for 900 hp on motor, so you only need 200 on the juice. That would be a 540 B1 motor with some porting.
Lets see, B1Wes built that exact combo.


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Re: Lets hear some 8.50 combo's [Re: Al_Alguire] #853328
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Well it starts with a 69 dart back half 4 link 10.5w 33 4.88 gears, 572 15.1 b1mc done by best machine with matching single carb, appx 1050hp, two speed,3040 lbs best et 8.54 158.9 at LV drag way.

Re: Lets hear some 8.50 combo's [Re: Dart1031] #853329
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I'm curious what you guys are doing to run 8.50's and what the car weighs and type of suspension, tire etc. I'm 99% sure I'm going BB on spray, but nothing is together yet. The car should weigh around 3,100 on CalTrac's.


Man i don't have any combo's but i got to say THAT DART IS SWEEEEET

Re: Lets hear some 8.50 combo's [Re: racerx] #853330
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A 400+ CID small block with heads that flow 350CFM and a 200HP shot of nitrous in a 3200 lb car.

A 400+ CID small block with heads flowing over 400 CFM built on kill with a Liberty and clutch weighing 2800.

A 400+ CID small block with heads flowing over 400 CFM and a 100HP shot of Nitrous will doing it dragging another car behind it LOL.


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Re: Lets hear some 8.50 combo's [Re: racerx] #853331
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Man i don't have any combo's but i got to say THAT DART IS SWEEEEET









Well, I could give ya an 8.50 combo but it would be for a Jr dragster

Re: Lets hear some 8.50 combo's [Re: Dart1031] #853332
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Ari, I got it back in March. It's been in storage since last month when I got it home. It wasn't Guppys car. I've heard about it, but never have seen it. Mine is leaf spring, his is a 4 link from what I'm told.


Al and Fred, thanks for that

Glass Man, thanks, but I don't like glass parts on street cars. Besides a hood anyways.

Greg, thanks for that info. Did Wes ever run that car? Seems like he sold it right around the time I joined Moparts.


racerx, thanks

Leon, I'll take #3 lol.

Anyone else? I know there's some more cars here that can do it.

Re: Lets hear some 8.50 combo's [Re: WILD BILL] #853333
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Well, I could give ya an 8.50 combo but it would be for a Jr dragster




Thanks anways Bill

Re: Lets hear some 8.50 combo's [Re: Dart1031] #853334
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my car is 3500lbs so my combo would be about 3 - 4 tenths faster
3500lbs
499 4.15 X 4.375 ross shelf flattop piston
440-1 heads and intake cnc ported by Scott Brown
Solid Roller Scott brown
1050 dominator
Leave on NOS big shot plate 73n 61f
Turn on a fogger on top of that 32n 28f
Progress the second one after .5 - .6 seconds

10 inch ATI converter t 400 Rossler trans
3.70 rear gears
proparts headers w/ 4" Hooker maxflow

best pass on motor alone was 9.87
Best pass on nitrous 8.43 @ 160,
i dial in the car to 8.50 with the progressive delaying the second one

I would love to have a 3100lb car !!!


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Re: Lets hear some 8.50 combo's [Re: HEMIFRED] #853335
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Sweet...What did it run not short shifting and off the brakes? If I remember, this the car you were looking to run some 7.50 or 8.50 index races with. D.T. builds some big power.

Re: Lets hear some 8.50 combo's [Re: 572_HEMI_Cuda] #853336
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Sweet...What did it run not short shifting and off the brakes? If I remember, this the car you were looking to run some 7.50 or 8.50 index races with. D.T. builds some big power.





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Sweet...What did it run not short shifting and off the brakes? If I remember, this the car you were looking to run some 7.50 or 8.50 index races with. D.T. builds some big power.









I don't think Fred's cuda has ever seen a a drag strip since he's owned it. So its only an imaginary 8 second car sitting in the garage with the show poodle.

Al's are is a throttle stop baby....... when its actually running




My car is slow but your basic 500" big block with B1's or -1's and some juice or power adder of your choice should do it easily. Aftermarket block is pretty much a requirement at that point.


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Re: Lets hear some 8.50 combo's [Re: Dart1031] #853338
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I went to Phoenix and got to drive it. Nice ride, eventually went deep into the eights on nitrous after Wes sold it.


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Re: Lets hear some 8.50 combo's #853339
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Sweet...What did it run not short shifting and off the brakes? If I remember, this the car you were looking to run some 7.50 or 8.50 index races with. D.T. builds some big power.





Re: Lets hear some 8.50 combo's [Re: n20mstr] #853340
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my car is 3500lbs so my combo would be about 3 - 4 tenths faster
3500lbs
499 4.15 X 4.375 ross shelf flattop piston
440-1 heads and intake cnc ported by Scott Brown
Solid Roller Scott brown
1050 dominator
Leave on NOS big shot plate 73n 61f
Turn on a fogger on top of that 32n 28f
Progress the second one after .5 - .6 seconds

10 inch ATI converter t 400 Rossler trans
3.70 rear gears
proparts headers w/ 4" Hooker maxflow

best pass on motor alone was 9.87
Best pass on nitrous 8.43 @ 160,
i dial in the car to 8.50 with the progressive delaying the second one

I would love to have a 3100lb car !!!










Leave on NOS big shot plate 73n 61f



if we where to use a plate setup

what would it get you too

something a beginer could use


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Re: Lets hear some 8.50 combo's [Re: Ari440] #853341
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Ari i have tuned the car on just the plate, i got it to run 9.0's at about 147 148. That was with 78n 70f and 20* timing. Prob could get it to run in the 8.90 8.80 range with say a 92 or so nitrous jet.

Now thinking about it, prob could go 8.50's with just the plate in a 3100lb car.
When using a plate on the Indy intake, have to watch at the higher jets that the cycl dist is good. Even with mine ported there are still two cyl that can get a little hotter than the rest


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