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caltraks and wheelie bars? #844331 11/02/10 02:13 PM 11/02/10 02:13 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,420 Chesterfield Twp. Mi. J John Burdine OP pro stock
John Burdine OP pro stock J Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,420 Chesterfield Twp. Mi.	anyone here with caltraks using wheelie bars with any success? if so, what style bars and what legth?

Re: caltraks and wheelie bars? [Re: John Burdine] #844332 11/02/10 02:39 PM 11/02/10 02:39 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,596 BX, CT, FL. B B1KILLER pro stock
B1KILLER pro stock B Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,596 BX, CT, FL.	I was told the longer the better, when I was going to get them. Something about they work better with small tired cars, I don't know if this applies too you.

Re: caltraks and wheelie bars? [Re: B1KILLER] #844333 11/02/10 04:18 PM 11/02/10 04:18 PM
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 608 TN 1DGEMAN mopar
1DGEMAN mopar Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 608 TN	The man himself John Calvert runs AJE bars. Real Men shift for themselves

Re: caltraks and wheelie bars? [Re: 1DGEMAN] #844334 11/02/10 04:38 PM 11/02/10 04:38 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy J joshking440 Lunch is on me!
joshking440 Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	Quote: The man himself John Calvert runs AJE bars. i have seen numerous sets of these wadded up like tin foil. Get a set of 60" spring loaded from a.r.t.

Re: caltraks and wheelie bars? [Re: joshking440] #844335 11/02/10 04:45 PM 11/02/10 04:45 PM
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Tig master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,024 A shed in England	Do you mount them the normal way? I heard that with caltracs you mount the bars to the body '74 Challenger..9.46 @ 145.9 1/4, 6.001 @ 118 1/8 so far. 4023lb !!! # N/A, Marsh performance 655ci, Indy Maxx, T/R, Indy 600-13 X's, Street legal, pump gas, full interior, Cal-Tracs, mufflers, 3:73's and real 10.5 radials. 9.51 @ 142.4 1/4, 6.003 @ 114 1/8 with our old mule KB, 572-13, 580 wedge. RHD '68 Barracuda Fastback 323ci street/strip. Best ET 13.88 @ 99.03

Re: caltraks and wheelie bars? [Re: Tig] #844336 11/02/10 06:08 PM 11/02/10 06:08 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy J joshking440 Lunch is on me!
joshking440 Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	mount them the normal way....

Re: caltraks and wheelie bars? [Re: joshking440] #844337 11/02/10 08:13 PM 11/02/10 08:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,129 Tulsa OK Bad340fish master
Bad340fish master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,129 Tulsa OK	Quote: mount them the normal way.... Someone I new at the track running 10.5 tires had problems this way. His Nova ran mid 8s and left pretty soft but carried the tires a good ways out. He tried conventional wheelie bars and it would light the tires as soon as the bars touched the ground so he ended up going without and controlled it with his MSD box. What is done differently with yours or what was wrong with his? Just curious as I see the reasoning behind the AJE style of bar and in my head I can see why the conventional wouldn't want to work as well with cal tracs. Thanks for any info. 68 Barracuda Formula S 340

Re: caltraks and wheelie bars? [Re: Bad340fish] #844338 11/02/10 08:55 PM 11/02/10 08:55 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,420 Chesterfield Twp. Mi. J John Burdine OP pro stock
John Burdine OP pro stock J Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,420 Chesterfield Twp. Mi.	i just dont see conventional bars working, as soon as you hit the bars the tires unload. here are a couple links to guys that claim to have a solution. http://kenkeirracecars.com/ http://hendersonfamilyracing.weebly.com/wheelie-bar.html

Re: caltraks and wheelie bars? [Re: Bad340fish] #844339 11/02/10 11:25 PM 11/02/10 11:25 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma Big Squeeze pro stock
Big Squeeze pro stock Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma	Quote: Someone I new at the track running 10.5 tires had problems this way. His Nova ran mid 8s and left pretty soft but carried the tires a good ways out. He tried conventional wheelie bars and it would light the tires as soon as the bars touched the ground so he ended up going without and controlled it with his MSD box. That's hilarious......Who is it? If you can't handle the truth, you're living a lie.......

Re: caltraks and wheelie bars? [Re: John Burdine] #844340 11/03/10 07:32 AM 11/03/10 07:32 AM
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HemiDart68 master Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,867 North of Detroit	Quote: i just dont see conventional bars working, as soon as you hit the bars the tires unload. here are a couple links to guys that claim to have a solution. http://kenkeirracecars.com/ http://hendersonfamilyracing.weebly.com/wheelie-bar.html Do you know Jake (jakes automotive) ? give him a call. They used wheelie bars on Len Adamicks blue 63 max wedge. Not sure how it worked out. There are pics of it here http://www.awracecars.com/gallery9.html In God we trust, all others pay cash. www.lightnens.com (Home of the world's fastest Paint Job)

Re: caltraks and wheelie bars? [Re: Big Squeeze] #844341 11/03/10 08:51 AM 11/03/10 08:51 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,129 Tulsa OK Bad340fish master
Bad340fish master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,129 Tulsa OK	Quote: Quote: Someone I new at the track running 10.5 tires had problems this way. His Nova ran mid 8s and left pretty soft but carried the tires a good ways out. He tried conventional wheelie bars and it would light the tires as soon as the bars touched the ground so he ended up going without and controlled it with his MSD box. That's hilarious......Who is it? It was Mike white several years ago when he was running that Orange Nova, back when the MAKO stuff first started. I say he controlled it with his MSD box that may not have been the case might have been nitrous timer whatever. I know the wheelie bars came back off pretty quick. I know it was picking the wheels up and trying to keep them up as the nitrous came in. 68 Barracuda Formula S 340

Re: caltraks and wheelie bars? [Re: joshking440] #844342 11/03/10 09:26 AM 11/03/10 09:26 AM
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4404dart pro stock 4 Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,283 Colorado,U.S.A	Quote: Quote: The man himself John Calvert runs AJE bars. i have seen numerous sets of these wadded up like tin foil. Get a set of 60" spring loaded from a.r.t. I also have a set of those, bent into a pretzel. On a positive note they did plant the tire, but it just drove the car up and bent the bars. After another wheelie, and smashing up the Charlies pan again, I tried a Comp Eng. 60 inch tube type bar, cut down to 55 inches(to fit in the trailer). Initially they would unload the tire, but as I kept raising the bars it started coming around. The wheelie bar wheels are over 14 inches off the ground, because the rearend wants to rotate so much, and the car needs to pitch rotate to work with caltracs and the long front end travel also needed for the caltracs to work,,, at least in my experiance. I was going to cut into the spare tire well more and get the bars higher, when the season ended. Mid to high 1.30's 60 ft, and 8.70's.

Re: caltraks and wheelie bars? [Re: 1DGEMAN] #844343 11/03/10 09:47 AM 11/03/10 09:47 AM
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Troublemaker427 super stock Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 722 Hampstead, MD.	Quote: The man himself John Calvert runs AJE bars. Not anymore... Jody Aberts 1966 Fairlane 427 Troublemaker2 AA/NSS 1964 Galaxie 500XL 390-4spd. 1966 F-100 390-C6 1967 Plymouth VIP 383-TF 2003 Roadking

Re: caltraks and wheelie bars? [Re: Troublemaker427] #844344 11/03/10 09:52 AM 11/03/10 09:52 AM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 722 Hampstead, MD. Troublemaker427 super stock
Troublemaker427 super stock Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 722 Hampstead, MD.	I run a standard 48" S&W wheelie bars on my car with Caltrac's with no problems. You just need to set them high so they don't unload the back tire. Many stock eliminator cars run bars with Caltracs. NHRA does not allow wheelie bars to be attached to the body in stock eliminator or SS. That is why John no longer runs the AJE bars. I've been 1.28 60' with a 10.5 tire with a 6AL box. 1.41 on the back tires... My car leaves straight as a string. It just took a little bit of testing to get it where everything works well. 6282797-1055627403_7Eqsv-L.jpeg (543 downloads) Last edited by Troublemaker427; 11/03/10 10:55 AM. Jody Aberts 1966 Fairlane 427 Troublemaker2 AA/NSS 1964 Galaxie 500XL 390-4spd. 1966 F-100 390-C6 1967 Plymouth VIP 383-TF 2003 Roadking

Re: caltraks and wheelie bars? [Re: Bad340fish] #844345 11/03/10 10:08 AM 11/03/10 10:08 AM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma Big Squeeze pro stock
Big Squeeze pro stock Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma	Quote: Quote: Quote: Someone I new at the track running 10.5 tires had problems this way. His Nova ran mid 8s and left pretty soft but carried the tires a good ways out. He tried conventional wheelie bars and it would light the tires as soon as the bars touched the ground so he ended up going without and controlled it with his MSD box. That's hilarious......Who is it? It was Mike white several years ago when he was running that Orange Nova, back when the MAKO stuff first started. I say he controlled it with his MSD box that may not have been the case might have been nitrous timer whatever. I know the wheelie bars came back off pretty quick. I know it was picking the wheels up and trying to keep them up as the nitrous came in. Even better........ If you can't handle the truth, you're living a lie.......

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