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Re: Disappointed with Prosystems! [Re: BSB67] #834928
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How much gain do you expect from a 1050 to an 1150? Jesse knows his stuff...I don't think you will see much...


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Re: Disappointed with Prosystems! [Re: tboomer] #834929
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QuickFuel or Holley Ultra from Summit out of the box. Ran just as fast as the BLP and other high end carbs we tested against and half the price...

Re: Disappointed with Prosystems! [Re: tboomer] #834930
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How much gain do you expect from a 1050 to an 1150? Jesse knows his stuff...I don't think you will see much...





Hey Ted.. Here were my results..

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...rue#Post6183430

Keep in mind, I don't ever touch the t-stop while testing, so I can get a good idea on what changes help or hurt.


Chris..

Re: Disappointed with Prosystems! [Re: moparniac] #834931
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mine from patrick are red!





So are mine..


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Re: Disappointed with Prosystems! [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #834932
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Oh...sorry. Got off subject...

Re: Disappointed with Prosystems! [Re: tboomer] #834933
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How much gain do you expect from a 1050 to an 1150? Jesse knows his stuff...I don't think you will see much...




I don't know how much better the 1150 would be but I was hoping to find out. That is why I ordered one. I seen two carbs run back to back and one made 17 more hp on the dyno

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I showed you results..


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Re: Disappointed with Prosystems! [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #834935
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Hom much do you figure you picked up. 1 tenth and 1.5 mile per hour?

Re: Disappointed with Prosystems! [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #834936
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Patrick called me this morning. They do not offer a 1150 carb. They have 1100's and 1200's. Since my motor makes less than 900 hp he recomends the 1100.
I am going to call the tech line tonight to talk to someone about correcting the rich idle.

If we can get the rich idle cleaned up I will be happy. The carb made really good horsepower on the dyno compared to the other carbs tested.

Re: Disappointed with Prosystems! [Re: DodgeCharger] #834937
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I ordered 2 SV1's through C & B Racing,should have them next week!!I am confident they will work very well for me


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Re: Disappointed with Prosystems! [Re: DodgeCharger] #834938
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Patrick called me this morning. They do not offer a 1150 carb. They have 1100's and 1200's. Since my motor makes less than 900 hp he recomends the 1100.
I am going to call the tech line tonight to talk to someone about correcting the rich idle.

If we can get the rich idle cleaned up I will be happy. The carb made really good horsepower on the dyno compared to the other carbs tested.





Iam confused You bought an 1150 got a 1100 because they dont make a 1150. The carb has been on a dyno and makes more horsepower but it idles rich. You dont know what size the bleeds are and the gaskets are torn. Spoke with Patrick and he didnt tell you how to lean out the idle? So your calling the tech line later? Who is on the tech line?

Re: Disappointed with Prosystems! [Re: poisondart2] #834939
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Patrick called me this morning. They do not offer a 1150 carb. They have 1100's and 1200's. Since my motor makes less than 900 hp he recomends the 1100.
I am going to call the tech line tonight to talk to someone about correcting the rich idle.

If we can get the rich idle cleaned up I will be happy. The carb made really good horsepower on the dyno compared to the other carbs tested.





Iam confused You bought an 1150 got a 1100 because they dont make a 1150. The carb has been on a dyno and makes more horsepower but it idles rich. You dont know what size the bleeds are and the gaskets are torn. Spoke with Patrick and he didnt tell you how to lean out the idle? So your calling the tech line later? Who is on the tech line?




Hopefully Patrick will be the one on the tech line. I am currently at work so I am unable to work on the carb at this time. The techline is availible after hours.
He told me to drill out the idle bleeds but he wants me to try something else first before drilling the bleeds.

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Also the bleeds are all as indicated on the tech sheet and not as labeled. I didn't have a torn gasket that was someone else.

Re: Disappointed with Prosystems! [Re: poisondart2] #834941
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prosystems carbs make good power,they just idle too fat in my experiance. i think you'll find the IFR's too big and maybe the IAB's too small for your combo. once you get that right i'm sure you'll be happy. i will say bigs built me a faster carb for my combo and i can talk to him(jesse) personally anytime of the day that i wish to call. good luck

Re: Disappointed with Prosystems! [Re: DodgeCharger] #834942
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After reading all of the positive posts on this board I bought a Prosystems carb. I am very disapointed with the carb. I am going to work with them and try to get the issue resolved but after the second contact with them I am not very optimistic. The thing that really turned me off on top of all of the other problems was the fact that I paid around $1,200 for a custom carb that won't idle. It is way to rich. When I check the air bleeds to the spec sheet I find out that they don't match. After talking to Brad at Prosystems he tells me that the bleeds are not as labled they buy #23's in bulk and then drill them to what they need. That to me is unbelievable. I also have a Bigs 1050 and his bleeds are as labled.
I was also informed that the carb is only a 1050 that flows 1100 cfm. When I ordered a 1150 carb.
I already have a Bigs 1050 I don't need another 1050.
I will be calling them again in the morning but from my experience I will have to leave a message and wait for a call back.
I am starting to remember why I lost interest in drag racing the first time and got out for a few years. Who should I talk to to get results?



IMO (based on what you cronicled here) it is premature to throw the companey under the bus. More information about your experience is needed, WAY MORE, before you bias any minds. At this point you may be lucky if you get any satisfaction. Being a carb companey has got to be tuff.

Re: Disappointed with Prosystems! [Re: DodgeCharger] #834943
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Also the bleeds are all as indicated on the tech sheet and not as labeled. I didn't have a torn gasket that was someone else.




Whoops your right about the gasket My bad

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IMO (based on what you cronicled here) it is premature to throw the companey under the bus. More information about your experience is needed, WAY MORE, before you bias any minds. At this point you may be lucky if you get any satisfaction. Being a carb companey has got to be tuff.




I don't want to throw them under the bus but their carbs aren't trouble free like I expected. I have come to the conclusion that everything in this hobby requires modifications!

Re: Disappointed with Prosystems! [Re: DodgeCharger] #834945
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IMO (based on what you cronicled here) it is premature to throw the companey under the bus. More information about your experience is needed, WAY MORE, before you bias any minds. At this point you may be lucky if you get any satisfaction. Being a carb companey has got to be tuff.




I don't want to throw them under the bus but their carbs aren't trouble free like I expected. I have come to the conclusion that everything in this hobby requires modifications!




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Re: Disappointed with Prosystems! [Re: Bad340fish] #834946
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IMO (based on what you cronicled here) it is premature to throw the companey under the bus. More information about your experience is needed, WAY MORE, before you bias any minds. At this point you may be lucky if you get any satisfaction. Being a carb companey has got to be tuff.




I don't want to throw them under the bus but their carbs aren't trouble free like I expected. I have come to the conclusion that everything in this hobby requires modifications!




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Your last sentence is very true - infortunately. On the bright side, I just purchased a Pro Systems 4150 ( 950HP main body ) and fired it up about 15 minutes ago for the first time. It was just about dead nuts on everywhere so far. No leaks. Rear float was a tad high. I went to both sides of their original settings for the idle mixture screws and found their setting to be the best. How they bench did that I don't know ( maybe a lucky guess ), but I'm a happy camper so far. Hopefully get some track time in a few weeks. Went from a 750 to a 950 on my 408 barge. Hope I'm not trading some 60 foot times for a little more mph


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Re: Disappointed with Prosystems! [Re: Crizila] #834947
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IMO (based on what you cronicled here) it is premature to throw the companey under the bus. More information about your experience is needed, WAY MORE, before you bias any minds. At this point you may be lucky if you get any satisfaction. Being a carb companey has got to be tuff.




I don't want to throw them under the bus but their carbs aren't trouble free like I expected. I have come to the conclusion that everything in this hobby requires modifications!




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Your last sentence is very true - infortunately. On the bright side, I just purchased a Pro Systems 4150 ( 950HP main body ) and fired it up about 15 minutes ago for the first time. It was just about dead nuts on everywhere so far. No leaks. Rear float was a tad high. I went to both sides of their original settings for the idle mixture screws and found their setting to be the best. How they bench did that I don't know ( maybe a lucky guess ), but I'm a happy camper so far. Hopefully get some track time in a few weeks. Went from a 750 to a 950 on my 408 barge. Hope I'm not trading some 60 foot times for a little more mph




Let us know, that'll be some good info.

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