318/360 swap torque converter questions..
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When I switched out my 318 for the 360 a few years back... I think I used the B&M flex plate, and the 318 TC... I'm getting some resonating, harmonic vibrations when driving, sometimes they even slowly pulse..reeeeeow... reeeeow... and have replaced a few things along the way, but it's still there.
this weekend I'm pulling the tail shaft and having a new brass bushing installed, and both U-joints are new, the drive shaft is balanced and straightened, the rear axle has been upgraded, and I have a rear trans mount ordered.
The only thing I have in question is my torque converter... if I wanted to order another, say with a different stall or just a new one that doesn't have a bazillion miles on it, can I order one for the 360 and still use the B&M flex plate? Will it bolt up?
Any other places I can check that would cause vibration?
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Re: 318/360 swap torque converter questions..
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I will put a wrench on those... I only notice it when driving above 50 or so, and more so when going down a long hill off the gas... I put the car in neutral going down a mountain for a second, and it wasn't as bad but still vibrating. It idles and revs in park okay. It's a motion-related vibration.
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Re: 318/360 swap torque converter questions..
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To answer your last question - order a torque converter that is neutrally balanced and use your B&M plate or if you order one for a 360 and it has the external weights on it you cannot use your B&M plate unless you cut the weights off the converter first. You cannot use both the weighted 360 converter and the B&M plate. One or the other but not both.
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Re: 318/360 swap torque converter questions..
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So if I had a 360 converter with the weights, I would need a 360 flex plate?
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Re: 318/360 swap torque converter questions..
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you need a combo of either...
a weighted converter and neutral flexplate
or
a weighted flexplate and neutral converter...
NOT Both...
Tony
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Re: 318/360 swap torque converter questions..
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10/19/10 04:57 PM
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Quote:
So if I had a 360 converter with the weights, I would need a 360 flex plate?
You would use a normal OEM flex plate. Mopar uses the same plate whether weighted converter or not. There is only 2 sizes to chose from too.
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Re: 318/360 swap torque converter questions..
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So if I had a 360 converter with the weights, I would need a 360 flex plate?
No.
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Re: 318/360 swap torque converter questions..
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They were new as of the engine swap, but I lost a u-joint on the rear and it ended up splaying the rear yoke apart and I chewed up a few more before I could get the axle fixed. I'm guessing it rattled something else?
I can't mess with it until Saturday, but I want to look at everything. I have to take it to Charlotte next weekend.
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Re: 318/360 swap torque converter questions..
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if you don't get the vibration standing still at the RPM you're feeling it down the road, I don't think it's the converter....I'd check your motor mounts and tranny mounts. the fact it's better in neutral than drive leads me to believe it is an issue with your pinion angle
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Re: 318/360 swap torque converter questions..
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Ooooh, good call. I will check that also. I did swap out rear end with another one from a 73, but I do have the rear raised up..
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Re: 318/360 swap torque converter questions..
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check u-joints for vibs as well as pinion angle make sure its the correct length and the yoke is far enuff in the tail saft to be supported the will vib at speed if not slid in far enuf also a good idea to have it balanced at a drive shaft shop check to make sure no wieghts have been knocked off
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Re: 318/360 swap torque converter questions..
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10/21/10 09:28 PM
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I am sure we used the 318 torque converter and the B&M plate.
Where is the balance, uh... balanced, exactly? How is one internally balanced?
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