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the time has come big block help #826762
10/10/10 08:31 PM
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well guys a while back picked up a 72 dart for my son to build up a new project and he wants big block power ...so now i need some good help from you guys to point me in the right way.. the base of the build will be a 400 stroked to ????????? what ever is the best combo..

ive been thinking of some parts but would like to here some from the pro..

thought about some indy 440-1
vic cnc ported
or some b1
dont know alot about the offset rocker stuff so any info ...
we would like to run the car down in the 6.50 to 6.00 index 1/8 mile
car is a 72 dart that will be ladder bars and mini tube for larger tires and full cge with glass hood and bumpers and maybe fenders.... so lets here it guys need to start looking for parts oh and it will be full roller.

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Re: the time has come big block help [Re: earthmover] #826763
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You dont need any of those cylinder heads to run 6.50's- 6.00s. A set of good SR's, max wedge will get you there and save dough on the rocker gear that way. EZ's as well.

You cant go wrong with any of the 400 based builds, be it a 451, 470 or 499. All depends on car weight and what your willing to compromise here and there, as far as parts longevity and engine lifespan and rpms are concerned. Obviously budget as well, but you dont need the heads you mentioned in my opinion.


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Re: the time has come big block help [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #826764
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Thanks that's the kind of help I'm looking for. can save a little her to use there

Re: the time has come big block help [Re: earthmover] #826765
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I went 6.22`s back to back w/home ported rpm`s and a solid roller at 3150 lbs in my street car and now that I`ve sealed up my heads and have a better fuel system, I hope to go quicker................


72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....
Re: the time has come big block help [Re: Thumperdart] #826766
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buy Andys book.........it will be alot of help

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thumper whats the combo if you dont mind ... yea i do need to get the book thanks guys

Re: the time has come big block help [Re: earthmover] #826768
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My combo;
400 block .030
off-set ground 413 crank to 3.900 strok
eagle 6.385 chevy rods
isky solid roller cam w/.680-.660 lift and 275-280 dur. @.050
home ported rpm`s
victor intake w/adapter for 1050 dommy
2" super comp hookers and 3 1/2" ex. into bullet muffs
hoosier 29x13.5 hoosier qtp`s on 12" weld drag stars
8 3/4 rear w/4.11`s, spool and dtchman 30 spline axles
727 w/an 8" 5000+ continental vert
car weights 3150 w/me ready to race.........hope this helps and good luck.


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hay thumper thanks fro the run down you seem to be moveing pretty good for what dont seem to be alot ....i hope i can get this 72 down to round that weight. i got andys book order also how to build a dragraceing sup. book aswell.. keep them coming guys i love to hear combos like this to give me a idea of what i need to do and what to look for...1 more ?????? is there a b-body header that fit the a-body low deck i was told there is but i dont know just trying to catch some deals in the for-sale section....

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My combo`s way old skool as Mc.Candallas(?) did this back in the 80`s and when I started this 11+ years ago,there wasn`t much available.


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Re: the time has come big block help [Re: Thumperdart] #826771
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ok my brother in law had a 73 duster with a h.mc.c build 451 with iron indy heads that ran 6.20 on 9" slicks with stock susp. but he sold the car before anybody had any good info on what was init...he got the motor running from someone else..but if i can get the car to run down in the area it would be great..

Re: the time has come big block help [Re: earthmover] #826772
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I have on suggestion. Buy the 440-1 kit right off the bat. You get everything including intake so your off to the rodeo and will make tons of HP as shipped with potential for more if you have them CNC'd later like Moderns Xmas special.
I bought SR's and then opened intakes to max wedge got the Indy intake, had to get a vally plate?? bought 4 different sets of rockers so far. welded to make 440-1' out of them and I still don't have the valve covers

To do it again I would go 440-1 right off the bat.

or get edelbrocks and home port them??







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