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Re: 1 of 2 Known 67 Hemi 4 Speed Belvedere Sedan - Hac
[Re: Dave Watt]
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10/12/10 12:10 PM
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It's his car so he's free to do with it what he will.......and I'm free to think he's a moron for doing it! ...see it all works out!  Dave
1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack
1974 'Cuda
2008 Ram 3500 Diesel
2006 Ram 3500 Diesel
2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel
2003 Ram 3500 Diesel
2006 Durango Limited
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Re: 1 of 2 Known 67 Hemi 4 Speed Belvedere Sedan - Hac
[Re: Dave Watt]
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10/12/10 12:51 PM
10/12/10 12:51 PM
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N.E. OHIO, USA
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I have to admit that before he did what he’s doing now he wasn’t anybody and nobody knew squat about him or his car and it seems could care less. His car was just a hidden away ’67 Hemi Belvedere with what could have been a clone factory paint job or even a clone car. Now he will live in Mopar infamy FOREVER as “wasn’t there some guy that took a 43 mile factory Hemi race car and made it they way he wanted it”…………………….he’s leaving his mark on Mopar history and before he did this nobody cared  about him, his life, his health or HIS car, good for him, now that’s going out with flare. We’ll always remember you, whatever your name is? I think I’ll give him a nickname name like “43 Mile Hemi Guy” sort of like “Balloon Boy” and all of those other nicknames of people that we don't know their real names that have done things that really don’t matter in the big scheme of life but PO a lot of people that it really doesn’t affect their real lives at all. Here’s to you "43 Mile Hemi Guy" and your place in Mopar history and folklore.  (Sad for the car and its historical “value” but good for him, as old “Blue Eyes” Frank sang “I did it myyyyyyy waaaaaaaay” and  ) MikeR
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Re: 1 of 2 Known 67 Hemi 4 Speed Belvedere Sedan - Hac
[Re: JulesdaWiperman]
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10/12/10 01:22 PM
10/12/10 01:22 PM
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Jefferson State
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Some people's perhaps. In 'o7 when I was diagnosed, I made plans that would insure the family would be o.k. and vehicles would not be a headache to them. This included a partial liquidation, a purchase or three and directions on whom to contact about certain other vehicles... Being terminal does not mean irresponsible. Actually, the 'medical establishment' recommends that one DOES NOT make any major descisions during the time one's coming to terms with their situation. With that in thought let me suggest the name Mr. Hemi Killer. He can proudly emblazon it on the side of his new dragcar (likely to be driven by someone else)  .
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Re: 1 of 2 Known 67 Hemi 4 Speed Belvedere Sedan - Hac
[Re: JulesdaWiperman]
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10/12/10 01:24 PM
10/12/10 01:24 PM
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I remember 2 years ago when I thought the end was getting here quicker than I wanted, I thought I was about to die because of a tumor they found in me.
At that specific moment I remember being with my dad for the last few months he had when he was dieing of Cancer in 2000. At that time I could not fathom what his thoughts were and the decisions he was making made no sense to me at the time. He did what he wanted and when he wanted to do it.
So when it happened to me I started to understand that this was it and if I wanted something or to do something I better get it done and I too didn't care what anyone would think..... It is an awful feeling to have and to go through. If the owner wants to do it to his car, so be it, let him, you will have your chance to mirror his feelings and thoughts someday and you will reflect back and do your thing.....
Could not have stated it better myself.
Ones' whole perpective on life changes and material things mean nothing anymore.
Although my health is stable, I think about it every day.
Jules
 ....Life is a little too short at times for some, best to enjoy what time you have.....rather than getting all "wadded" up about matters,...that really don't matter at all,....like this thread about this old forgotten car,...the only person that should care what happens to this car, is the current owner, it's his to do as he pleases, to he11 with what others think he should/shouldn't do to/with it
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Re: 1 of 2 Known 67 Hemi 4 Speed Belvedere Sedan - Hac
[Re: A12]
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10/12/10 01:32 PM
10/12/10 01:32 PM
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I have to admit that before he did what he’s doing now he wasn’t anybody and nobody knew squat about him or his car and it seems could care less. His car was just a hidden away ’67 Hemi Belvedere with what could have been a clone factory paint job or even a clone car. Now he will live in Mopar infamy FOREVER as “wasn’t there some guy that took a 43 mile factory Hemi race car and hacked it up”…………………….he’s leaving his mark on Mopar history and before he did this nobody cared about him, his life, his health or HIS car, good for him, now that’s going out with flare. We’ll always remember you, whatever your name is? I think I’ll give him a nickname name like “43 Mile Hemi Hack” sort of like “Balloon Boy” and all of those other nicknames of people that we don't know their real names that have done things that really don’t matter in the big scheme of life but PO a lot of people that it really doesn’t affect their real lives at all.
Here’s to you "43 Mile Hemi Hack" and your place in Mopar history and folklore.
(Sad for the car and its historical “value” but good for him, as old “Blue Eyes” Frank sang “I did it myyyyyyy waaaaaaaay” and )
MikeR
Mike I think there is a little confusion on your part , it's not a factory race car , it's just a Hemi , but yes a rare one.
edit ... I just read the entire thread, was this car really a MULE for the 68 SS a bodies running out of the Boston area ???
Jon does some nice work , I hope to see it at the track next year .
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Re: 1 of 2 Known 67 Hemi 4 Speed Belvedere Sedan - Hac
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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10/12/10 05:17 PM
10/12/10 05:17 PM
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The whole thing is this, the guy was apparently born with a silver spoon in his mouth and likes to rub it in. Most of us on here can not afford to do something like that so it looks completly retarded to us. On the other hand some poor kid in Cuba probably would think I was nuts for painting my cuda non-original and ditching the original 318 2bbl 7.25 in favor of a warmed up 360 8.75. I took a lot of the cars originality out of it and made it better IMO, that is what he is doing just with a $100,000 car instead of a $10,000 car, he just has so much money that none of it matters to him. You can tell for sure this is the situation when he throws the factory Hemi Dana60 out for the scrap metal guys to haul off, he just has too much money, just like the kids in cuba probably think about me, "he tossed out a perfectly good 7.25 rear  we could have used that in the old dart!
I am not causing global warming, I am just trying to hold off a impending Ice Age!
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Re: 1 of 2 Known 67 Hemi 4 Speed Belvedere Sedan - Hac
[Re: JohnRR]
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10/12/10 05:22 PM
10/12/10 05:22 PM
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John, on the car; what I find odd and maybe this doesn't apply to this car is I thought a "factory race car" was a bare minimum car from the factory WITHOUT undercoating or sound deadening, etc., but the photos clearly show the rear wheel wells with what appears to be....  .......then again maybe that's rubber from the M&H slicks  Oh, and that 43 miles a quarter mile at a time has to be at least a little over a 1/2 to 3/4 miles at a time.......a quarter mile up, slow down distance, a quarter mile back and getting back to the pits and back to the start has to be way more than a 1/4 mile...yuk, yuk, All that odo tells anyone is that's when the cable was disconnected I need to come up with a nicer nickname for the guy, I don't wish him any ill will, just used that because of the tone of most of the thread by some (I'm on his side, btw his car etc). He's really like most of us, he's probably been wanting to do that for many, many years (I think I read that) and procrastinated just like most of us about doing in it; DAMHIK   guilty. MikeR 
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Re: 1 of 2 Known 67 Hemi 4 Speed Belvedere Sedan - Hac
[Re: A12]
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10/12/10 08:56 PM
10/12/10 08:56 PM
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All I can say is what I've been saying all along... It's his car, his $$... In the end, his decision.. More power to him for doing what he wants with it I stopped by Jon's shop tonight to talk to him about a few things... And we got to talking about this car... His feelings are it's his car, he can do whatever he wants with it.. He asked the owner if it's REALLY what he wanted done and if he knew what he was doing.. The owner replied "I've had this for 42 years and this is what I want". Jon explained everything that had to be cut and moved...Jon told him to sell it like it is (factory) and buy any car you want and race tomorrow with it... So in the end, it's something the owner went into with his eyes open wide... As for the post above.. it is a real car. Jim Reid (who built my motor) is the guy who put the 43 miles on it back in 1967. It was bought new from Hall Motors in Brockton, MA. It was a factory Hemi 4-speed Belvedere 1, otherwise known as the mule car...Radio delete.. Heat delete... Jim and his brother Tom raced it in '67 and sold it at the end of the year , to another guy in Central Mass, who pulled the entire drivetrain out. The CURRENT owner bought the body, as you see it for $300. It even has the original metal hood scoop... For the record, the guy who owns this is not rich.. He's a regular working stiff like the rest of us... He put his kids through college.. Did his time.. And this is his dream car. My hat's off to him for living his dream. Any one who thinks the car is being "hacked" should really go see the quality of the work that's being done and decide for themselves...
Last edited by JB666; 10/12/10 09:15 PM.
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Re: 1 of 2 Known 67 Hemi 4 Speed Belvedere Sedan - Hac
[Re: JB666]
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10/12/10 10:11 PM
10/12/10 10:11 PM
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Spokane Washington
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As for the post above.. it is a real car. Jim Reid (who built my motor) is the guy who put the 43 miles on it back in 1967. It was bought new from Hall Motors in Brockton, MA. It was a factory Hemi 4-speed Belvedere 1, otherwise known as the mule car...Radio delete.. Heat delete... Jim and his brother Tom raced it in '67 and sold it at the end of the year , to another guy in Central Mass, who pulled the entire drivetrain out. The CURRENT owner bought the body, as you see it for $300. It even has the original metal hood scoop...
JB, no desrespect but the term "Mule Car" seems to be nothing more than a nickname they gave to the "Donor Car" that gave up it's drive train to a 68 car, nothing more (unless you can dig up some proof of otherwise?). Also, the RO/WO scoop may be an original (if it's made of steel) but regardless it did not come on that car from the factory, it was added after purchase. As far as it being a "real" Hemi car, I have no doubt that it is. As far as the term "hacked" is concerned, I found it appropriate to describe ANY type of sheet metal modification performed on such a rare car, regardless of the skill level of the fabricator.
Just one mans opinion
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Re: 1 of 2 Known 67 Hemi 4 Speed Belvedere Sedan - Hac
[Re: QuickSilver]
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10/12/10 10:13 PM
10/12/10 10:13 PM
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Lima, Peru
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Why cut up an original when you can take any run of the mill car and do the same thing? When the rare cars have already have been modified back in the day and have some kind of history or racing heritage I do agree on leaving them like that or restoring them to their former glory. If its an untouched original example, I would leave it as is. But oh well, its his car. I would have NEVER done that to that car though!  I have a 67 Barracuda notchback slant 6 to cut up as I please, stuff a HEMI in it, cage it, whatever....my 69 HEMI Charger Im restoring to bone stock specs. But oh well, thats what makes sense to me. It'd be boring if we all thought alike.
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Hope he enjoys it for another 42 years. 
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