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GearVendor installation; '69 -body (Charger) #824177
10/07/10 09:33 AM
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Hey gang..
OK, looking for illustrations and discussion on the installation ease/difficulty of installing the #3DFS727A into a '68-'70 B-body, in particular, my '69 Daytona over there to the left. It's a 4.10 Dana car and I don't want to compromise the 4.10's (love 'em on the local streets, hate them on the highway). From one thread on the Charger Board, it looks pretty straight up... Anyone with a unit in a Dana-equipped car? If so, what was the length of the shortened driveshaft?

Thanks in advance..

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'69 Charger 500 440 - 4speed - 3.54 Dana
'70 Road Runner 383 - 4speed - a/c (now with 440)
Re: GearVendor installation; '69 -body (Charger) [Re: hemi68charger] #824178
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Come on.. No one out there has a '66-'70 Body with a Dana equipped with a GV unit? If so, what's the new shorter length you used for the driveshaft? I'm trying to get one of my extra driveshafts prepped and ready for installation the same day I finish the GV installation...


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'69 Charger 500 440 - 4speed - 3.54 Dana
'70 Road Runner 383 - 4speed - a/c (now with 440)
Re: GearVendor installation; '69 -body (Charger) [Re: hemi68charger] #824179
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Not knowing the part number you listed off the top of my head, did you go with the one from SMR trans? It's the one they call the shorty OD GV for the 727...Looks like it makes the install a snap. Been thinking about one in my Cuda


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: GearVendor installation; '69 -body (Charger) [Re: Dragula] #824180
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The one I'm ordering is this one, with the 18" tailhousing. So, this is the one I need measurements if I can get them before hand so I can have the driveshaft already made up and ready to go...



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'69 Charger Daytona 440 - auto - 4.10 Dana (now with 426 hemi)
'69 Charger 500 440 - 4speed - 3.54 Dana
'70 Road Runner 383 - 4speed - a/c (now with 440)
Re: GearVendor installation; '69 -body (Charger) [Re: hemi68charger] #824181
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Here is some info for you.
http://www.moparts.org/Tech/Archive/auto/37.html
The floor mods are not really neccessary, you may just have to drill a new hole in the tranny crossmember to get enough clearance to the tunnel.
Can't help with the drive shaft length since I don't remember how long the original ds was...

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Re: GearVendor installation; '69 -body (Charger) [Re: hemi68charger] #824182
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Quote:

The one I'm ordering is this one, with the 18" tailhousing. So, this is the one I need measurements if I can get them before hand so I can have the driveshaft already made up and ready to go...






Just my two cents, but I wouldn't have the shaft pre-made....I would measure everything after you install it. You will probably still have stuff to hook up while your waiting on the drive shaft....

I like the shorty OD set-up, but thats me.


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: GearVendor installation; '69 -body (Charger) [Re: Dragula] #824183
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Quote:

Quote:

The one I'm ordering is this one, with the 18" tailhousing. So, this is the one I need measurements if I can get them before hand so I can have the driveshaft already made up and ready to go...






Just my two cents, but I wouldn't have the shaft pre-made....I would measure everything after you install it. You will probably still have stuff to hook up while your waiting on the drive shaft....

I like the shorty OD set-up, but thats me.








Troy, I've done the GV swaps (auto and 4spd) as well as the Keslier TKO swaps,...wait untill the install is complete, and measure out for the shaft with the car resting on it's suspension, haste makes waste, nothing worse than having a shaft too short or long,...seen too many guys make this mistake.......

Re: GearVendor installation; '69 -body (Charger) [Re: hemi68charger] #824184
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Quote:

The one I'm ordering is this one, with the 18" tailhousing. So, this is the one I need measurements if I can get them before hand so I can have the driveshaft already made up and ready to go...






You should check out that shorty kit from SMR. It looks like it will give you a better overall install.


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Re: GearVendor installation; '69 -body (Charger) [Re: DAYCLONA] #824185
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Quote:

Troy, I've done the GV swaps (auto and 4spd) as well as the Keslier TKO swaps,...wait untill the install is complete, and measure out for the shaft with the car resting on it's suspension, haste makes waste, nothing worse than having a shaft too short or long,...seen too many guys make this mistake.......




That's what I did. The local drive shaft shop down here did my shaft in one day.

Re: GearVendor installation; '69 -body (Charger) [Re: Dabee] #824186
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Have to agree with shaft made to fit your car. Only other thing I found was that GV has a 90 degree speeo drive adapter that helps with floor clearance. I am running a 8 3/4 rear with 4:10 and love it set up this way.

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Re: GearVendor installation; '69 -body (Charger) [Re: hemi68charger] #824187
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Keep your original driveshaft intact, and get a complete new one made. The GV unit has a GM slip yoke, so spend the few extra $$ it takes to get a new end for the driveshaft that will take a standard u joint. If you buy a conversion u joint, it is only a few bucks less than the new end and standard GM u joint combined.

Re: GearVendor installation; '69 -body (Charger) [Re: JDMopar] #824188
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i am very happy with mine in my roadrunner.....430 gears suck on the street....worth the money.....







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