Re: 514 on the dyno
[Re: Cab_Burge]
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08/17/13 06:12 AM
08/17/13 06:12 AM
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Big Squeeze
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that combination made a best of 727 HP .....The Duster ran 9.96 at 134.8 MPH on Oregon pump gas through the exhaust with the air cleaner on weighing 3450 lbs with me in it with that combination Now how does that compute
Since you asked....695hp....
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Bottom line is I tell you guys what the results are....
True.... .....and if Andy actually put his stuff into a car and raced it, there wouldn't be any question, but he doesn't and apparently has no plans to....
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As far as AndyF and his results maybe some of you doubters ought to pitch in some cash to help pay for more dyno time with the stipulation that you get copies of the dyno sheets Some people do, some people talk.
You're right Cab, Andy is doing a great job of "talking".... ....maybe I'll start a thread next week "talking" about how I built a hydraulic cam'd 318 with iron heads and manifolds that made 650hp on Oregon pump gas and then I can write a book about it....but I won't post any Dyno sheets or run it in a car, since you'll believe me....
If you can't handle the truth, you're living a lie.......
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Re: 514 on the dyno
[Re: Big Squeeze]
#804455
08/17/13 11:40 PM
08/17/13 11:40 PM
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Posts: 43,223 Bend,OR USA
Cab_Burge
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that combination made a best of 727 HP .....The Duster ran 9.96 at 134.8 MPH on Oregon pump gas through the exhaust with the air cleaner on weighing 3450 lbs with me in it with that combination Now how does that compute
Since you asked....695hp....
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Bottom line is I tell you guys what the results are....
True.... .....and if Andy actually put his stuff into a car and raced it, there wouldn't be any question, but he doesn't and apparently has no plans to....
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As far as AndyF and his results maybe some of you doubters ought to pitch in some cash to help pay for more dyno time with the stipulation that you get copies of the dyno sheets Some people do, some people talk.
You're right Cab, Andy is doing a great job of "talking".... ....maybe I'll start a thread next week "talking" about how I built a hydraulic cam'd 318 with iron heads and manifolds that made 650hp on Oregon pump gas and then I can write a book about it....but I won't post any Dyno sheets or run it in a car, since you'll believe me....
Sounds like you've been listening to long to some of them Okie TV star street racers , Especially if you beleive you wiil convince to beleive stuff that you make up that doesn't make any sence at all Me thinks to many keyboard racers read to much stuff written by magazine scribes that print a bunch of hoprsecrap that some engine builder or racers fed them that they know nothing about so every body takes it as the gospel Same thing on on line and purchasble HP calculators, there written by people that make thier living selling software, their not racers using the results they made As I have said before, we that offer insights to those learning should make sure that we do no harm, ever Intentional or otherwise
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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Re: 514 on the dyno
[Re: AndyF]
#804458
12/29/13 06:09 PM
12/29/13 06:09 PM
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MR_P_BODY
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Got the engine back on the dyno for some more testing last week. I was mostly interested in working on the oiling system. I had a new dry sump tank design to try out and I had a flow meter hooked up to the oil pump for the first time.
At 7000 rpm this engine has about 8 gallons per minute of oil flow. That is a little less than I expected given the unbushed lifter bores and the valve cover oilers. The oil pump section is only 1.0 inches wide but it doesn't have any trouble maintaining 75 psi at 8 gpm with 5w30 oil. Anyone else have any data on oil flow rates? I've never seen anything published other than the Milodon claim that their Mopar pump flows 15 gpm.
The air coming into the dyno cell was only 37 degrees so I had to add a bunch of jet size. Uncorrected power was way up given the cold air. Barometric pressure was 30.07 so it was a mineshaft air day. Altitude was -1500 ft when I looked at the gauge. Cold air and Q16 combine to make a lot of raw power.
I am curious as to the suction side of the pump/inlet tube on what kind of restriction it shows on a gauge... I assume you took the flow reading from the oil in or out of the filter area
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Re: 514 on the dyno
[Re: Big Squeeze]
#804462
12/29/13 09:54 PM
12/29/13 09:54 PM
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Even if the dyno is happy, I still enjoy seeing the difference different parts make......
Sasquatch and an Andy F. dyno sheet..........both talked about, but never really captured..........
OK Hold the boat there.. Sasquatch makes more than any I have ever seen on a monthly basis the old fashioned way.. without ever bragging, just Doing!
He is always " Keeping it Squatchy" around here. They have dynoed MORE Mopar combos than any builder I know of. The head porter they use has won several Daytona 500's and called on by Mother Mopar for consultation many times. Thing is most that are interested in the details want that Hard Earned info for free--ain't happening! This is the real world and that info is what they put the kids through college with so No you can't have it for free but..every customer I know that has placed confidence in them walks away in wonder after watching their new engine run and the multiple National wins and championships just keep adding up..............
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Re: 514 on the dyno
[Re: AndyF]
#804463
12/29/13 10:07 PM
12/29/13 10:07 PM
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8 gpm is about 4 feet/sec of fluid velocity in a #16 line which should be fine for a suction line. If I need to make any changes to the inlet hose I might upgrade to a #20 line since that would reduce the suction resistance and the flow velocity even more. My inlet line is only about 3 feet long so I don't think there is any issue with the #16 line but bigger is better on the inlet side.
Did you guys ever run any oil pump flow tests in the dyno room?
I was never involved in any of that but I'm sure they ran them... hell... even with something like that you wouldnt need a dyno... just apply enough restriction to simulate the engine and spin the pump
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Re: 514 on the dyno
[Re: AndyF]
#2219894
12/23/16 10:59 PM
12/23/16 10:59 PM
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Is this a pre-trick flow test, or is it getting different pistons with the other heads?
68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
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Re: 514 on the dyno
[Re: AndyF]
#2220204
12/24/16 03:28 PM
12/24/16 03:28 PM
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cudadon
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Come on Andy, quit slacking already. We need more data (and more books, and more parts comparing dyno testing, and innovative product development, etc..etc...!!! And make sure all that comes out of your pocket while you're at it! We want more!! Hi Tony, nice to see you stop by! I spent the day out in the shop designing new parts. Here is one new product. Large tube header flanges for the EZ heads. I added clearance for the head studs so guys don't have to notch them after the headers are finished. Hi Andy Merry Christmas, A couple questions on the flanges if you don't mind? What size are the openings? Will they work on SR MW heads? Will you make them in stainless? Thanks again, Don
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