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Re: 514 on the dyno
[Re: AndyF]
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09/05/11 12:24 PM
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Andy thanks for your honest reply.  Probably would'nt be cost per HP effective eh? Thanks, Don
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Re: 514 on the dyno
[Re: jimmysarrow]
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09/16/11 07:51 PM
09/16/11 07:51 PM
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Great idea, I have a Meizere water pump , always wanted to know how it pumped, make it a little smaller and I think a lot of people would purchase to install on there cars. Ill take one with 16 line.
I could make these as a product but there just aren't very many guys running dual hose setups. I could make an in-line window of some sort but that would be a different product. A sight glass on the side of the water pump itself seems like a good idea.
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Re: 514 on the dyno
[Re: AndyF]
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09/17/11 09:44 PM
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We never did find anything wrong with the engine. The oil filter is clean, lash is fine, plugs look good, compression is identical in all 8 holes, etc.
We calibrated the dyno and double checked everything we could think of. Could be that we're just at the limit of this cam and head package which is why changing things like spacers and carbs and such doesn't make much of a difference. We made about 30 dyno pulls over a period of several days and all the good runs ended up being about 820 hp.
All was not lost though, we did get to test a ton of parts and we tried a bunch of new things. Most of the new stuff didn't work out, but that is still useful information.
about 820 hp or it made 820 , can you post sheets so we can see power band ect.
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Re: 514 on the dyno
[Re: AndyF]
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10/03/11 11:22 AM
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I started to pull the engine down to make a few changes. These Superformance intake gaskets work like a champ. We did a bunch of intake swaps on the dyno and the gaskets still look like new.
Andy who makes this valley inspection plate?Is it one of yours?If so who sells it?......Thax 
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Re: 514 on the dyno
[Re: AndyF]
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10/03/11 12:23 PM
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The valley plates that I make usually have a SST center plate. I just replaced the SST plate with one made from polycarb. I don't sell the clear covers at the moment but I might in the future.
I guess i should have been a little clearer  The valley cover it self who sells it?and can i see a better pic  of it?
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Re: 514 on the dyno
[Re: dirty magnum]
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10/03/11 07:17 PM
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We never did find anything wrong with the engine. The oil filter is clean, lash is fine, plugs look good, compression is identical in all 8 holes, etc.
We calibrated the dyno and double checked everything we could think of. Could be that we're just at the limit of this cam and head package which is why changing things like spacers and carbs and such doesn't make much of a difference. We made about 30 dyno pulls over a period of several days and all the good runs ended up being about 820 hp.
All was not lost though, we did get to test a ton of parts and we tried a bunch of new things. Most of the new stuff didn't work out, but that is still useful information.
about 820 hp or it made 820 , can you post sheets so we can see power band ect.
good luck getting dyno sheets, he NEVER post them....... 
68 cuda formula S 588" bb 5sp
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70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (PLUMCRAZY):TOO MUCH HORSEPOWER, IS ALMOST ENOUGH!
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Re: 514 on the dyno
[Re: AndyF]
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10/03/11 11:56 PM
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Valley plate with a solid cover is a standard product. AR182 and you can buy it from any of the usual dealers. Mancini Racing, Hughes Engines, Mazzolini, etc.
Thax. Andy i'll check it out.
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Re: 514 on the dyno
[Re: AndyF]
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10/04/11 03:35 PM
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We never did find anything wrong with the engine. The oil filter is clean, lash is fine, plugs look good, compression is identical in all 8 holes, etc.
We calibrated the dyno and double checked everything we could think of. Could be that we're just at the limit of this cam and head package which is why changing things like spacers and carbs and such doesn't make much of a difference. We made about 30 dyno pulls over a period of several days and all the good runs ended up being about 820 hp.
All was not lost though, we did get to test a ton of parts and we tried a bunch of new things. Most of the new stuff didn't work out, but that is still useful information.
If the reversion plate deals work , I'd think they would work best on an engine like mine (small cid, big heads, big flat tappet) 
Your dyno#s seem in line with the 500+ motors from around here. I'm not sure why some can only make 720 with the same type of parts..... I guess the sub sea level on track testing gives one the impression that less hp can net the same ets..meaning other people are on happy  dynos.
Would you ever try some 440 -1s on there?
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Re: 514 on the dyno
[Re: AndyF]
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10/04/11 04:09 PM
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I'd love to see how my Chapman 285's would do on that block against the EZ-1's. The chaps are well known for the intake flow but with a 2" tube they flowed close to 300 @ .700 on the exhaust with the smallish but apparently very efficient port. It'd be an interesting comparison for sure, I suspect you're at the saturation point of the exhaust where it's simply slowing down the pumping rate (ability to keep accelerating) at high RPM which in turn limits how much draw you can N/A draw on the intake almost regardless of flow potential. They'll say the exhaust just isn't as important and it's not at moderate piston speeds and RPM's but sooner or later you slow the pump down when you can't get the air out quickly enough, more valve timing can help to a point but eventually. with a 500 inch motor it's like using a piston to push fluid out of a filled 1 litre bottle...if one has a standard opening and the other has a Mickey's wide mouth, at some point, sooner or later Mickey's gonna win. 
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