Re: build me a rare 1970-71 dodge challenger!
[Re: Desmond]
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09/11/10 04:51 PM
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Start with a 4-speed 1970 Challenger Convertible, paint it TX9 Black, black top, 426 Hemi, N96 OR N94, H6XV hemi orange interior, power windows, Rallyes, bumblebee orange tail stripe. Challenger T/A big and little Polyglas GTs front and rear - 'cause you "had 'em swap them at the dealer off a new T/A in '70", H25 heater delete because it was Hawaii-bound, radio delete because it was going to be a race car but plans changed.
call it a day.
I like it! Not a fan of convertibles but, a hard top would look pretty nice! Thanks!
I have seen an orange on orange E-body in my area. I have not seen the car for a few years. Not sure it is even around anymore. I believe it also had a sun roof. Cool car!
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Re: build me a rare 1970-71 dodge challenger!
[Re: moparmat]
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09/11/10 07:49 PM
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Also, whats the deal with the fixed rear quarter glass?
The Challenger "Deputy" had fixed 1/4 windows, it was introduced mid-model year 1970 & was continued for the '71 model year. The largest available engine was 383 4bbl.
There are currently more known '71s with the N94 hood than non-T/A '70s with the hood.
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Re: build me a rare 1970-71 dodge challenger!
[Re: moparmat]
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09/11/10 07:53 PM
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I was refering to 1971 Challengers in regards to the N94 T/A hood. The option was available in 1970, but in 1971 it was not according to the link you provided. Only N96 shaker hood was an option. Supposedly 3 or so 1971 Challengers left the factory with N94 T/A hoods. I can not recall where I gathered that information but I will try to source it. Again this is odd, but not impossible considering the T/A was supposed to be an option in 1971 but was discontinued. Would be rare to find a 1971 Challenger with N94 T/A hood considering no T/A's were supposed to be built. What do you guys think? Anyone have any information that could clear this up?
N94 was available on 1971 Challenger. I think there were more N94 Challengers thought to be made than 1970 Challengers. IIRC, there are more 71 N94's known to exist today (not much bearing on what was actually made).
Not in the 1971 Dodge Dealership Data Book but in the 1971 Salesman's Pocket Guide.
http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/imag...hallenger_4.jpg
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Also, whats the deal with the fixed rear quarter glass?
That was part of the A93 Challenger Coupe package. Only on Challengers not available on Challenger R/T's. So... The largest engine with A93 is 383-4bbl N-code. Not Available with 340 motor. A93's have a black rimmed steering wheel instead of woodgrain, fixed rear windows with plug for window crank, no cigarette lighter, cheaper 71 Barracuda-"like" plain seats, no day-nite anti glare mirror, std motor was 198 (225 on non coupe Challengers).
You could get an A93 coupe with shaker, sunroof, rubber bumpers, wings, louvers... Just like you could on a regualar Challenger.
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Re: build me a rare 1970-71 dodge challenger!
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09/12/10 11:22 AM
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Years ago I parted out a 71 R/T Challenger that was an A78 formal roof package car. It had a 383 auto,3.23 sure grip, A/C and magnums. Painted gold with a white interior. Fool me to part that car as its worth 3 times as much as my 74 I used the parts for I also had another 71 R/T that was a 340 auto on the column,black bucket interior,black paint with the black R/T stripe,3.91 axle package,Gull wing and manual disc brakes. Cool cars I should have in my garage now
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416 stroker from Nick at Compu-flow. 11.14 in full street trim. Seems like a new best every time out. 11.06 open headers----so far!!
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Re: build me a rare 1970-71 dodge challenger!
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05/16/11 08:39 PM
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You could get an A93 coupe with shaker, sunroof, rubber bumpers, wings, louvers... Just like you could on a regualar Challenger.
That sounds like the way to go to me. I like this topic. Since it's an old thread, I hope the original poster won't mind if I hijack it!
New guidlines,... Any 70-74 Challenger with most possible rare features. Car won't be raced, so performance is not an issue, and I don't care if it looks tacky or overly busy. Think of it like a dealer demonstration car showing off rare options/features. That means the car must have been able to be factory built according to the engineering diagrams. None of that wierd stuff like factory errors, leftover parts, dealer modifications, or options that weren't allowed to be together.
Let's see what we can come up with.
Tav
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Re: build me a rare 1970-71 dodge challenger!
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05/17/11 12:36 AM
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I had a rare Challenger for 20 years. FM3 R/T, pink stripes, rear spoiler, Am8trk, 15X7 rallyes, rocker moldings to name a few. I'd order that same car but add window louvers and of course a 26er under the shaker hood.
Sheldon
How about a 70 383 shaker, FM3 with white interior, black vinyl top, white bumblebee stripe, spoiler package, with magnum 500's?
Chris from New Jersey
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Re: build me a rare 1970-71 dodge challenger!
[Re: fig426]
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05/17/11 11:09 AM
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I'd build a '71 Hemi Challenger R/T convertible. The car would be J6 Sassy Grass with white interior, White R/T stripes and Black top.
The car would have Front and Rear Spoilers, Rubber bumpers, Shaker (black), hood pins, PW, PS, PDB, color keyed seat belts, rear shoulder belts, blackout grille and tailpanel, 15x7 Rallyes, Rimblow, AM-FM Stereo Cassette, Rallye Dash, 4-speed with Console, Track pack 3.54 Dana.
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Re: build me a rare 1970-71 dodge challenger!
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05/17/11 12:35 PM
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Here's a fantasy build 71 Challenger R/T
-E74 Hemi -D21 4 speed -FJ6 Green Go -VJ6 Lime R/T stripe -N94 T/A hood -M51 Sunroof -V1X Black Vinyl top -A22 Front and rear rubber bumpers -A45 Front and Rear spoilers -G36 Painted Mirrors -A44 Rear louvers -H5F7 dark green with green hounds-tooth interior (not recommended/ with FJ6 or not allowed?) If not H5XX Black Hounds-tooth -A33 Track Pack -B41 Disk brakes -S77 Power Steering - Tuff Steering Wheel -R36 AM/FM with cassette -P31 Power Windows -J41 Pedal drees up -J25 Hood pins -A01 Light group -C62 6-way seat
Second variation on that would be with EV2 paint, Orange R/T stripe, and orange hounds-tooth interior.
*No rocker panel, door edge, or A46 molding group because it's busy enough looking allready. It would break up the "painted out" theme.
A22 is a Barracuda code, not Challenger
I think Challenger is M73 and it's not list on the fender tag
I do like your choices
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Re: build me a rare 1970-71 dodge challenger!
[Re: Morty426]
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05/17/11 04:08 PM
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Here's a fantasy build 71 Challenger R/T
-E74 Hemi -D21 4 speed -FJ6 Green Go -VJ6 Lime R/T stripe -N94 T/A hood -M51 Sunroof -V1X Black Vinyl top -A22 Front and rear rubber bumpers -A45 Front and Rear spoilers -G36 Painted Mirrors -A44 Rear louvers -H5F7 dark green with green hounds-tooth interior (not recommended/ with FJ6 or not allowed?) If not H5XX Black Hounds-tooth -A33 Track Pack -B41 Disk brakes -S77 Power Steering - Tuff Steering Wheel -R36 AM/FM with cassette -P31 Power Windows -J41 Pedal drees up -J25 Hood pins -A01 Light group -C62 6-way seat
Second variation on that would be with EV2 paint, Orange R/T stripe, and orange hounds-tooth interior.
*No rocker panel, door edge, or A46 molding group because it's busy enough looking allready. It would break up the "painted out" theme.
A22 is a Barracuda code, not Challenger
I think Challenger is M73 and it's not list on the fender tag
I do like your choices
My bad. There are codes for front only and front and rear together rubber bumpers. Are they both M prefix codes?
Just fastasy building a "weido" triple color car. The 70/71 colored side stripe are cool. Could do the same with EV2, orange 71 stripes, and orange houndstooth interior.
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Re: build me a rare 1970-71 dodge challenger!
[Re: cataclysm80]
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05/17/11 09:22 PM
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Since it's an old thread, I hope the original poster won't mind if I hijack it!
New guidlines,... Any 70-74 Challenger with most possible rare features. Car won't be raced, so performance is not an issue, and I don't care if it looks tacky or overly busy. Think of it like a dealer demonstration car showing off rare options/features. That means the car must have been able to be factory built according to the engineering diagrams. None of that wierd stuff like factory errors, leftover parts, dealer modifications, or options that weren't allowed to be together.
Let's see what we can come up with.
Alright, since I'm going for unique, I'm going to start with a 1970 Challenger. The 70 Challenger has several dash pieces that are unique and not used on the later cars.
Rarest engine is probably the 198 6 cylinder, & rarest color is probably 999. I've got to have rear seat shoulder belts. Hmm, where to start? this is going to take some thinking...
Tav
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Re: build me a rare 1970-71 dodge challenger!
[Re: cataclysm80]
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05/18/11 12:26 AM
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Hi Diego, Great to see you here.
But I'm always here!
Anyway, It's strange that Barry did not respond - it's not like him.
Shoot me an email and it'll remind me to search through my files at a better time.
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Re: build me a rare 1970-71 dodge challenger!
[Re: Diego (not Ted)]
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05/18/11 12:49 AM
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... What other interesting colors combinations can you think of?
TX9 paint 9T Tan bumble bee stripe Tan interior FT6 two tone top
TX9 paint FK5 bumble bee stripe Burnt Orange interior FK5 two tone top
TX9 paint FE5 bumble bee stripe Red interior FE5 two tone top
TX9 paint EB7 bumble bee stripe Blue interior EB7 two tone top
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Re: build me a rare 1970-71 dodge challenger!
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05/18/11 01:45 AM
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Asking for limited production factory options like cruise control in her boys, and Tav knows as much as anyone about this option, and sure that he would agree it appears all these years later that very few were put into in an E body and the stalk is unique to e-body, good luck in finding the next one for sale and then need to find every part. I'd guess the stalk has been NS1/Obsolete for many years, leaving j-yard and used parts to choose from. And you can't forget the limited production options for e-body like the headlight time delay. The relay and wiring harness is unique to the E body. The relay is NS1/Obsolete/not available through Chrysler, again, good luck in finding the next one for sale. I bought the last one for sale last week and paid. The deluxe seatbelts with holders is another limited production option. In what color is limited of these? Red? How about interior color? In my experience - Blue/Gold/Red were limited production, maybe not in that order... Will it have a buddy seat or overhead consolette? And what is this inside hood release for E body in the 70-71 parts catalog? Again, was limited production or never made it onto the E Body. How about front bumper guards, fender turn signals and the 28 spoke wheel covers for 14" and a non-AAR strobe stripe. Bumper jack cover in the trunk! Gotta have M46, you know it. This car decide if it may need a/c and all plumbing if no fresh air since it too could be considered 'limited' in E body and other early 70's muscle cars. Have fun with the rest guys
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Re: build me a rare 1970-71 dodge challenger!
[Re: cataclysm80]
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05/18/11 02:24 AM
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Rarest engine is probably the 198 6 cylinder
I looked into it a little... Hemi is the rarest, with 198 6 cylinder in second place. The 225 6 cylinder is a very distant 3rd place.
Tav
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