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build me a rare 1970-71 dodge challenger!
#796878
09/09/10 03:32 AM
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With the rarest options, color combinations, ect. Maybe a 1970 with a 1971 interior? Late '70 build using '72 next year parts. Odd stripe package Interior options. Whatever was available for this car in 1970. What would be considered the rarest options? I would like to do a car with rare features as a representation of the rare items that could be ordered or the odd instalments ma mopar made on the assembly line. Help me out guys! 
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Re: build me a rare 1970-71 dodge challenger!
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09/09/10 06:06 PM
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I should clarify that this car is intended to be a representation if you will of the odd options and what could possibley happen with late production models getting parts/options of the next year cars. For example a '70 with a '71 interior. That sort of thing. Also how I would have built the car had I purchased it in 1970. I was thinking... -Hemi orange on black. -R/T model (maybe SE. Would like to go with louvers but not available on SE model). -gator skin vinyl top. -black vinyl interior with orange houndstooth inserts. Orange interior with houndstooth insert would be cool but as I understand the houndstooth only available with black interior. -power bulge hood with R/T treatment in black. -440+6bbl -maybe 4 speed. -Dana60 -stripe package in the same color as the car. Orange stripe on orange paint. Longitudenal stripe was not avainlable in orange. Bumble bee stripe? Orange or black? -Go wing Maybe throw a few late production elements in there like a few '71 options? I do not want the car too look too "busy". Would the louvers and black R/T with gator vinyl and orange houndstooth be too much? Would louvers and "go wing" make the rear too clustered? Pros and cons of the SE: Pro's- overhead consolette, SE trim, SE rear window. Con's- No louvers! 
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Re: build me a rare 1970-71 dodge challenger!
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#796881
09/09/10 06:21 PM
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Louvers and 1971 wings go hand in hand.
Nice combo would be Purple, white interior, white stripe, silver bubble on a shaker hood, louver, wing, flip gas cap, rallye wheels, it has to have a hemi and four speed with a dealer installed gear set in the dana. Toss in rubber bumpers and maybe a sun roof and you got it all.
1971 HEMI E BODY REGISTRY
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Re: build me a rare 1970-71 dodge challenger!
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#796885
09/09/10 09:13 PM
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I think I understand what you're thinking, but some of the things you're talking about aren't rare, they just simply didn't exist.
For example, the orange houndstooth interior wasn't around until 1971, and therefore not possible on an SE in 1970.
There were orange longitudinal stripes, but again, not until 1971. It's a neat idea, but I wouldn't combine options that weren't even possible, or for a different year.
For me, it would be all about the colors. With the V9* painted stripe, the possibilities for a 70 Challenger are almost endless. How about FE5 with a V9Y yellow stripe, and a red interior, or EB7 with a V9V orange stripe and black painted top?
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Re: build me a rare 1970-71 dodge challenger!
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#796887
09/09/10 10:35 PM
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I think I understand what you're thinking, but some of the things you're talking about aren't rare, they just simply didn't exist.
For example, the orange houndstooth interior wasn't around until 1971, and therefore not possible on an SE in 1970.
There were orange longitudinal stripes, but again, not until 1971. It's a neat idea, but I wouldn't combine options that weren't even possible, or for a different year.
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Saying it is a late 1970 and you could get all the 1971 options magically is too far of a stretch. That's a square peg in a round hole.
Similar idea to those Canadian 71 Challengers with rubber bumpers and wide hood molding. Those two options could not be ordered together.
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Re: build me a rare 1970-71 dodge challenger!
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09/09/10 10:51 PM
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I think I understand what you're thinking, but some of the things you're talking about aren't rare, they just simply didn't exist.
For example, the orange houndstooth interior wasn't around until 1971, and therefore not possible on an SE in 1970.
There were orange longitudinal stripes, but again, not until 1971. It's a neat idea, but I wouldn't combine options that weren't even possible, or for a different year.
For me, it would be all about the colors. With the V9* painted stripe, the possibilities for a 70 Challenger are almost endless. How about FE5 with a V9Y yellow stripe, and a red interior, or EB7 with a V9V orange stripe and black painted top?
The idea is to replicate bizarre assemblies or what could have been.
For example: Iggy's black on orange 1971 Dodge Demon 340. Built from the factor with a 1972 interior in a 1971 car. Even more interesting is the car has a T/A 340 block from the factory. The car features a few more '72 model parts.
Bizarre car's such as this do exist. Im not building a concours restored car. I am trying to display some of the unique assemblies that could have left Chrysler assembley lines.
If Iggy's Demon could be built with a next year '72 interior, why couldnt a '70 Challenger have a '71 interior or '71 stripes?
Chrysler assembled alot of unique bizarre cars with parts from the year previous or the next with odd options, ect.
There is a quote I read from the article about Iggy's Demon. It reads "Never-say-never when it comes to something Chrysler couldn't have built"
Think of Iggy's car in regards to what I am trying to replicate.
Putting different year interior options in a car that is only less than a year apart is not that far fetched as it sounds. The Demon proves that. And as far as I am concerned, that Demon IS A RARE car because of its unique one of a kind items. You deffinately will not find another one like it.
I am sure there are many more unique cars such as Iggy's Demon that I am not aware of as I am only 23 years old. I am just a young buck still wet behind the ears! But I love these kinds of Mopars! I dont have the money to buy a Hemi Challenger and if I did I sure would not alter it in any way. So if not a Hemi Challenger, why not build a car displaying what I love about Mopars the most being the unique options and bizarre combinations.
On an interesting note, the green floral Mod Top was meant to be available in 1970 but was not. What if it had been? Thats the idea behind my thinking.
I also want to build this car to hopefully one day compete in F.A.S.T! 
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Re: build me a rare 1970-71 dodge challenger!
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#796890
09/09/10 11:08 PM
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Louvers could be put on Challengers without Vinyl tops. Here is a picture of the car I decribed in my above post minus the Sun Roof and Rubber Bumpers and a color changes.It is an original Louver no vinyl top car.
Also I know of only one Cuda that was built with both a rear window louver and a luggage rack. Chrysler states that this was not to be built, and I believe this was because the luggage rack would hit the louver.
Another example of what "could not" be done but was obviously built.
The car is not supposed to represent what you could have order from the dealership by checking of the options list but rather how Chrysler very well could have built a car with different year items/options with "left overs" from another model year into the next production run such as the Demon mentioned above.
One or two changover deals, sure. But whipping out the 71 Challeger option guide on top of a 1970 is a bit rediculous.
Just build a 71 Challenger R/T.
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Some R/T Challengers left the factory with T/A hoods as well. How odd is that?
That was an option. N94.
You should read all the dealer info available over at http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/library.shtml
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Re: build me a rare 1970-71 dodge challenger!
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#796891
09/09/10 11:14 PM
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What Demon are you talking about? I follow those pretty closely and am not familiar with it. Got any pics of the car and fender tag? The Louvers are a bad example as well, I've seen dozens of non vinyl top Challengers with louvers over the years. Quote:
Some R/T Challengers left the factory with T/A hoods as well. How odd is that?
Not very odd at all when you consider that the T/A hood was advertised in the factory literature and had it's own option code (N94)
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Re: build me a rare 1970-71 dodge challenger!
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#796893
09/09/10 11:56 PM
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'71 Challenger R/T - Go Mango, 440-6, 4-speed w/console, 3:54 Dana, black shaker, elastomeric bumpers, white vinyl top, black R/T stripes, rear window louvers, rear go-wing, PS, PDB, PW, Sunroof, AM/FM stereo, rallye gauges, white interior, rear defroster, light group, 15x7" rallys, space saver spare, CA. emissions. What did I leave out? Rear shoulder belts???
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Re: build me a rare 1970-71 dodge challenger!
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#796895
09/10/10 12:28 AM
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I also want to build this car to hopefully one day compete in F.A.S.T!
FAST racing, the first two letters represent Factory Appearing, right?
You may want to read their rule book, if you start adding 1971 bits or non-1970 options like a mod top they may not allow you to race? 
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Re: build me a rare 1970-71 dodge challenger!
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#796896
09/10/10 12:50 AM
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What were you saying about vinyl tops and louvers?
Interesting Challenger R/T badge placement on the decklid... 
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Re: build me a rare 1970-71 dodge challenger!
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#796897
09/10/10 12:51 AM
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'71 Challenger R/T - Go Mango, 440-6, 4-speed w/console, 3:54 Dana, black shaker, elastomeric bumpers, white vinyl top, black R/T stripes, rear window louvers, rear go-wing, PS, PDB, PW, Sunroof, AM/FM stereo, rallye gauges, white interior, rear defroster, light group, 15x7" rallys, space saver spare, CA. emissions. What did I leave out? Rear shoulder belts???
6-way seat...
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