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Re: 70 B Body Education : Dash PLEASE [Re: JMCFAN] #790105
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JMC, If it isn't too much trouble, would it be possible for you to take measurements of the switch hole placement? (center of switch hole to reference point of your choosing)

I will be in need of this info also.

Thanks!

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Re: 70 B Body Education : Dash PLEASE [Re: mr_belvedere] #790106
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not a problem. Gve me till tomorrow.


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Re: 70 B Body Education : Dash PLEASE [Re: anlauto] #790107
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I just couldn't get a good look from the back at the hole in the metal but, I took the bezel off. Those 2 screws are just short & screw directly into the plastic dash. The switch comes in from the backside of the metal & I could see one of what looked more like a bolt-type head, screw. You couldn't replace the switch without the plastic dash being out of the way first because there's no way to get to the screws that hold it. Anyway, the switch is definitely bolted to the metal and there has to be at least a 3/4- 1" hole for the lever to come through.

Re: 70 B Body Education : Dash PLEASE [Re: b54406barrel] #790108
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The pic posted by JMCFAN is correct of what the mounting hole should look like. The switch mounts directly to the metal frame. The 2 holes on the plastic dash cover are just for the plastic "air Grabber" bezel.
If you don't have a map light your car will have a metal block off plate. I may have an extra.

Re: 70 B Body Education : Dash PLEASE [Re: hemi70se] #790109
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You are missing the solenoid as shown here, plus all the plumbing. The solenoid mounts to the right side of the switch body.
PM me if you want to save on the PG repro price and go with an original as shown..

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Re: 70 B Body Education : Dash PLEASE [Re: mccannix] #790110
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.....oh, and your dash bezel is correct

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Re: 70 B Body Education : Dash PLEASE [Re: anlauto] #790111
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i have a template for the metal dash hole and screw holes with size,pm me if you need them and i'll have it for you tomorrow,switch mounts to metal frame,bezel only is mounted on plastic dash,switch is kinda off set,meaning that when put in frame toggle kinda angles towards the DRIVER,i mounted the set up im my 70 runner non air grabber and with the template from a older member(b body bob)everything went perfect.pm me if i can be of any help

Re: 70 B Body Education : Dash PLEASE [Re: anlauto] #790112
09/03/10 11:27 PM
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Just to clarify...
The white plastic switch mounts on the backside of the metal dash frame with two screws...
NOT on the outside between the metal frame and plastic bezel.

The bezel mounts to the plastic using two more screws.

Where does the solenoid go?

Terry I could take you up on the offer, but now I only need the solenoid. How do you tell if used ones work?


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Re: 70 B Body Education : Dash PLEASE [Re: anlauto] #790113
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Quote:

Just to clarify...
The white plastic switch mounts on the backside of the metal dash frame with two screws...
NOT on the outside between the metal frame and plastic bezel.
Yes from behind, but I don't know how many screws hold it, can't see.

The bezel mounts to the plastic using two more screws.
Yes

Where does the solenoid go?
Close to ashtray, again can't see up there very well. I would think a FSM would show it




Re: 70 B Body Education : Dash PLEASE [Re: b54406barrel] #790114
09/04/10 08:50 AM
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Does anybody mind if I hi jack a lil bit?

As long as the topic is 70 B body dash education..

My 70 RR vert came with 2 indicators. Seatbelt and reverse.

Could this be possible? It looks factory but someone told me that Seat belt would only be 71 and up?

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Re: 70 B Body Education : Dash PLEASE [Re: Finoke] #790115
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Here's a better pic...

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Re: 70 B Body Education : Dash PLEASE [Re: Finoke] #790116
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No problem hijacking...We're all on this flight together..
Just don't say..."i have a bome" ... (bomb)

Does your car have some sort of "Deluxe" seat beat option..


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Re: 70 B Body Education : Dash PLEASE [Re: anlauto] #790117
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Quote:

Terry I could take you up on the offer, but now I only need the solenoid. How do you tell if used ones work?


I've never seen a used one fail unless one of the plastic tabs is broken or the wiring lets go.
More chance of Sum Yung Gy building them overseas for PG Classic not putting one together right.
You'll also need a fitting like this on the engine.

6177153-fitting.jpg (38 downloads)
Re: 70 B Body Education : Dash PLEASE [Re: mccannix] #790118
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On this closer view of the dash frame that JMCFAN supplied you can see the two screw holes on the frame by the large round opening. That is where the switch is screwed onto. Only two of the 4 holes on the switch body, the recessed ones, are used.
Just to the right of that about 6 inches and a bit lower, you can see the two screw holes where the solenoid is screwed to.
A 70 solenoid has a green 18" wire with a spade connector that goes down to the fuse box bottom.

Not that it applies here, but a 71-72 solenoid is attached to the switch body via an angled metal bracket and has a bullit male end on the green wire that plugs into a 3 outlet yellow female harness plug

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Re: 70 B Body Education : Dash PLEASE [Re: mccannix] #790119
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Quote:

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Terry I could take you up on the offer, but now I only need the solenoid. How do you tell if used ones work?


I've never seen a used one fail unless one of the plastic tabs is broken or the wiring lets go.
More chance of Sum Yung Gy building them overseas for PG Classic not putting one together right.
You'll also need a fitting like this on the engine.




On my rr that manifold fitting has the large central vac nipple for pb & the small side one, not the 2, 5/16" nipples. Wonder what a non-pb car fitting looked like?

Re: 70 B Body Education : Dash PLEASE [Re: anlauto] #790120
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Quote:

No problem hijacking...We're all on this flight together..
Just don't say..."i have a bome" ... (bomb)

Does your car have some sort of "Deluxe" seat beat option..




I'm not sure. The car came without the belts and there is no build sheet.

Nothing special is designated on the fender tag except buckets with console.

Re: 70 B Body Education : Dash PLEASE [Re: Finoke] #790121
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Finoke- Here is a 70 RR Convertible with auto trans and C15 deluxe seatbelts. Notice the single light. I believe (but not sure) you would get the seat belt light with the deluxe belts. This is the only RR Covert I have seen with deluxe belts.

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Re: 70 B Body Education : Dash PLEASE [Re: coffeeman383] #790122
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Same car, deluxe seat belts (button style). The C15 would be window sticker or build sheet only (not on the tag).

Also notice that this car has the wrong door panels (standard non-RR decor)???

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Re: 70 B Body Education : Dash PLEASE [Re: coffeeman383] #790123
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One more, window sticker with the C15 code.

Finoke- Do you have paint yet?

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Re: 70 B Body Education : Dash PLEASE [Re: coffeeman383] #790124
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Quote:

Same car, deluxe seat belts (button style). The C15 would be window sticker or build sheet only (not on the tag).

Also notice that this car has the wrong door panels (standard non-RR decor)???





Good info Coffeeman!

No paint yet. But the body work is progressing. They are about half way there. The bodywork on the entire rear half of the exterior is done.

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