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what can i do to a stock industrial 413 to get more power out of it other than adding another carb? its got the motorhome heads and the high rise water pump.

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Re: industrial 413 [Re: moparmanof85] #786107
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Seriously ..

Find something else to work with


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WHAT is this going in ? ...

Re: industrial 413 [Re: dOoC] #786109
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WHAT is this going in ? ...




Does it matter ?

Anything other than a dump truck its a POS


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Re: industrial 413 [Re: bigdad] #786110
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A POS ?

Come on now .. that moder is what made Mopar KING of the RV and "dump-truck" market for years !!

It has some short-comings .. but that can be remedied.

Re: industrial 413 [Re: dOoC] #786111
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The short comeings can be remidied by replaceing pretty much every part of the engine. Heads flow worse than a 360 head and bigger valves and porting are not gonna help much. The cam is obviously very puny, It has very low compression so it needs new pistons witch by the time you buy custom pistons you can buy off the shelf 440 pistons and a 440 block for the same dollars that will make more power. The only things I would re-use would be a crank, rods and mabey a few bolts

Hard to address one critical area and see much gain on an engine that has that many short comeings for building HP. It can be built to make a lot of HP even with just 413 inches but it will cost more than makeing more power from a 440 would. It would all look the same from the outside when done too.


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Some of the stuff is right-on .. like compression and the JUNK cam ... but the heads ? ...

Are PERFECT for what they were designed for. For slow-speed operation ...and they give HEAVY DUTY new meaning.

I have seen plenty of RV and truck motors ...where the heads were TOASTED.

I have NEVER seen a 413 industrial head hurt in any way.

Re: industrial 413 [Re: dOoC] #786113
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A POS ?

Come on now .. that moder is what made Mopar KING of the RV and "dump-truck" market for years !!

It has some short-comings .. but that can be remedied.




Junk

IMO

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Roger that .. they are JUNK for anything HP... but if you have a tow-rig or a motorhome .... there is no better Mopar cyl head available.

I have two projects that I am having some R&D work done ON THOSE HEADS ...I will probably have a TWO GRAND in the first set.

Then there are others that run Mopar powered MH's that are interested in those heads if they help low--speed performance and MPG.

Re: industrial 413 [Re: dOoC] #786115
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WHATEVER
Thats a POS for a starting point for any project
Argue with someone who cares


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Re: industrial 413 [Re: moparmanof85] #786116
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it is a heavy duty engine. i am using it in a truck for the low end. got a granny 4 speed behind it. as for low end torque, what should i do? this motor has 12xxx miles on it, so its not warn out. barely broken in. again, i dont plan to get a ten second car with this, i know. its for torque, so i thought i'd ask the pros here. thanks in advance.

Re: industrial 413 [Re: moparmanof85] #786117
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OK There is the problem you posted a question, on a race site that looked like you wanted a race motor. Now that we know what you are really after, you should get the answers you wanted.

Re: industrial 413 [Re: moparmanof85] #786118
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The same as you'd do with a ny other engine..cam,exhaust and so on.I don't know what the specs are on the 413 cam,but maybe something like a Comp Cams old hi energy or the stock 440 cam for starters...


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Re: industrial 413 [Re: Chris2581] #786119
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In that case slide a 440 short block under it, that will give you another 50lbs TQ even if it was a cast crank motor home short block.


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Re: industrial 413 [Re: bigdad] #786120
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Argue with someone who cares







...and YET .. looky-who is ARGUING !!

And to the OP ... this topic would be BESTer in the "general" section .. the ole indust 413 is in no-way a race-only motor.

Re: industrial 413 [Re: DAK512] #786121
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OK There is the problem you posted a question, on a race site that looked like you wanted a race motor. Now that we know what you are really after, you should get the answers you wanted.




You posted the question in the wrong section.

Re: industrial 413 [Re: Chris2581] #786122
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The same as you'd do with a ny other engine..cam,exhaust and so on.I don't know what the specs are on the 413 cam,but maybe something like a Comp Cams old hi energy or the stock 440 cam for starters...




Unfortunately, there aren't any new cam cores for the 413 Industrial motors.







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