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'68 383 vs '76 440 motor home engine #783864
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Looking for a big block for my 71 RR clone. Found a '68 383 with 727 with 88,000 miles for $400 obo. Also found a '76 440 with 727 from a motorhome with 80,000 miles, $700 Both are still in the vehicles and I have heard them run. Both sound fine. I don't plan to do anything crazy with either, just different cam, headers, Eddy performer intake, and Eddy carb. They will go in a daily driver cruiser to replace the 318. I just like the power and torque of a bigblock. Which would you choose? Thanks


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Re: '68 383 vs '76 440 motor home engine [Re: sco440] #783865
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If you're gonna build them anyways, go 440! There is no replacement for displacement!

Re: '68 383 vs '76 440 motor home engine [Re: sco440] #783866
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got a coin to flip. I guess the 440 is a better platform for future builds. The 383 if it's out of a car will have everything you need to drop in and roll. The motor home engine will probably need an new water pump, oil pan and brackets. It is also an externally balanced motor w/ very low compression. BUT if the 383 is a 2bbl motor it's probably no better than 9:1. I'd offer each $600 and buy the one you can get cheaper.


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Re: '68 383 vs '76 440 motor home engine [Re: Mr.Yuck] #783867
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383 is out of a '68 Newport so I assume it is a 2 barrel. it is $400 obo actually has 115000 miles been off the road since '91. Little puff of smoke when started, but runs fine. The motor home engine seems firm on $700. I really want something I can just put in. I'll change the intake, carb and headers. Don't really want to get into a lot of work trying to get hp out of a '76 440, when I could get enough out of the 383 with less work.

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Re: '68 383 vs '76 440 motor home engine [Re: sco440] #783868
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383 is out of a '68 Newport so I assume it is a 2 barrel. it is $400 obo actually has 115000 miles been off the road since '91. Little puff of smoke when started, but runs fine. The motor home engine seems firm on $700. I really want something I can just put in. I'll change the intake, carb and headers. Don't really want to get into a lot of work trying to get hp out of a '76 440, when I could get enough out of the 383 with less work.




you won't be able to bolt the motorhome trans in your car so it's $700 for just an engine in this case, the 383 looks like the better deal.

Re: '68 383 vs '76 440 motor home engine [Re: sco440] #783869
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Forget the transmission. Sell it Ramchargers.com
440!
That 383: What's scrap getting now?

Re: '68 383 vs '76 440 motor home engine [Re: Commando1] #783870
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I didn't know the transmission would not bolt in from the motorhome. He wants $550 for just the motorhome engine, but what needs to be changed for it to fit.


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Re: '68 383 vs '76 440 motor home engine [Re: Commando1] #783871
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400 bucks seems incredibly high for a 383. 700 for the 440 is in the ballpark.

Re: '68 383 vs '76 440 motor home engine [Re: JohnRR] #783872
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[get hp out of a '76 440, when I could get enough out of the 383 with less work.




you won't be able to bolt the motorhome trans in your car so it's $700 for just an engine in this case, the 383 looks like the better deal.




Yes and No I bought two 440's with 727's out of motor homes in the past two years one had the short shaft with big U Joint attached to back of it and one was just a standard 727 output shaft??
So you have to check. Both 440's had standard heads and water pumps but newer style so scrap them and go older model water pump.
The short shaft I just replaced the output shaft and tail stock to a standard output and tail stock and all was good.


either 440 or 383 option are fine.

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Re: '68 383 vs '76 440 motor home engine [Re: Dodgem] #783873
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Since it's a '68 383, won't it need hardened valve seats? What does that run?


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Re: '68 383 vs '76 440 motor home engine [Re: sco440] #783874
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If the motor home has motor home heads they are a pain to deal with, flow very puny and should be switched out. Some of the trannys fit fine, just have to check. If it has a useable trans and heads the 440 is a good deal.


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Re: '68 383 vs '76 440 motor home engine [Re: bobby66] #783875
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400 bucks seems incredibly high for a 383. 700 for the 440 is in the ballpark.




That's $400 for the motor and the trans and it's BEST OFFER ...

Re: '68 383 vs '76 440 motor home engine [Re: JohnRR] #783876
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Buy the 440. Do not even mess with the 383. You are just throwing money away. If it was a 69 383HP running it would be something to consider. Even if you have to buy another 727 I would still go with the 440. Like someone else said it is a good foundation for a future build. I have never seen the market so bad for 383's. We posted a 69 RR 383HP on here quite a few times for as low as $300 for the short block and no one even called. It even has a 69 RR Vin stamped on the rail. It is just an opinion and some advice from someone who has been at this hobby for a long time!
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Re: '68 383 vs '76 440 motor home engine [Re: joewhite440] #783877
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I have two 440's from motor homes,and they have all the pulleys and p/s and trannies..I'll take $700 for both..one is a 76 and the other is a 78..I was told that the 76 had only 2,700 and the 78 has 6,800 miles on it.. if your interested PM me and i'll send pictures..I need to make room for other project. This is A great deal,I just got them three weeks ago and havn't posted them yet..

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I just picked up a 383 for $150, no trans though.

It's a '70 4bbl engine, complete, but will need a rebuild. It's out of a '70 station wagon.

I think I stole it for $150, plus, I have a newly rebuilt and beefed up 727, all the HP parts to swap onto the 383, bigger radiator etc. So it wasn't like I have to buy alot of stuff to go big block. Basic rebuild, check the block, crank, rods, rebuild the heads, etc. I will buy new KB pistons, cam, timing chain (double roller), rod bolts etc. But it shouldn't cost more than $1500 and I'll have a 383 with all the power I will use it for.

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Buy the 440. 35 years all Mopar!


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Back in December, I picked up a 68 440HP out of a 68 GTX for $125...running and complete. All accesories, brackets, etc. Im pretty good at finding deals.


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Re: '68 383 vs '76 440 motor home engine [Re: 69L78Nova] #783881
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Go with the 383.

You said it is a DD, so think MPG.

Coming from a car, you should get most or all of what you need to make it go. Be sure and change the timing chain while it is out and easy to do.

I'm thinking 300 is a fair price for everything. A 383 is worth very little but if you truly get everything you need then it isn't a bad deal at all.


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Re: '68 383 vs '76 440 motor home engine [Re: HotRodDave] #783882
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If the motor home has motor home heads they are a pain to deal with, flow very puny and should be switched out.




That statement is just wrong, wrong, wrong.
Why are they a pain to deal with???
I'll take those iron MH heads, totally reworked, over after market aluminum heads any day. Can't destroy them.
(And they flow very well without work, too)

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