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440 distributor problems #776899
08/18/10 08:06 PM
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Solon, Oh
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Have been chasing a low speed to part throttle miss on my 440. Can pull all wires one at a time (except #2) at the distributor with little effect on the idle or sound of the miss. Here's where i'm stumped, pull #2 engine dies every time, put a test wire with a plug to ground the engine runs the same as when the other 7 are removed one at a time.

Any thoughts?
I've tried new cap, wires, plugs, even changed to an optic pick up, same symptoms every time.

compression is 172-179psi on all cylinders
cam lobes intake +- .004 exhaust +- .003

Thanks Tim

Re: 440 distributor problems [Re: Convertible Bee] #776900
08/18/10 08:10 PM
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did you gap new pickup with steel feeler gauge? sometimes that makes them wacky, thats why they say only brass to gap


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Re: 440 distributor problems [Re: hemigod426] #776901
08/18/10 08:43 PM
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Solon, Oh
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Hi,
No gap to set on the optic,it sees light or not.That's in now.
When the mag pick up was in, I set it with a brass .007 shim.

Thanks Tim

Re: 440 distributor problems [Re: Convertible Bee] #776902
08/18/10 08:53 PM
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Quote:

Hi,
No gap to set on the optic,it sees light or not.That's in now.
When the mag pick up was in, I set it with a brass .007 shim.

Thanks Tim


ok missed that part, try shaft coller might be bouncing? watch dizzy spining with cap off have somebody turn key with plugs out, might be bent? ohm out all your wirs? drill vent hole in cap wont cross fire/carbon track. some thing that helped me


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Re: 440 distributor problems [Re: Convertible Bee] #776903
08/18/10 09:44 PM
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Quote:

Have been chasing a low speed to part throttle miss on my 440. Can pull all wires one at a time (except #2) at the distributor with little effect on the idle or sound of the miss. Here's where i'm stumped, pull #2 engine dies every time, put a test wire with a plug to ground the engine runs the same as when the other 7 are removed one at a time.

Any thoughts?
I've tried new cap, wires, plugs, even changed to an optic pick up, same symptoms every time.

compression is 172-179psi on all cylinders
cam lobes intake +- .004 exhaust +- .003

Thanks Tim


put a test wire with a plug to ground the engine runs the same as when the other 7 are removed one at a time.
Can you clarify this statement, not sure what this means. To me, this sounds like either a couple of bad wires or a couple of crossed wires. Which brand/size wires are you using?

Re: 440 distributor problems [Re: repad] #776904
08/18/10 10:34 PM
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Solon, Oh
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Hi,
have tried mopar direct fit 7mm wires, new just before driving to the nationals last friday, msd 8mm today, new cap + rotor today.

Test wire was the extra wire from msd set installed in #2 on distributor and sparkplug held on the engine block to see if it would spark.

As I noted, engine will start and run while I hold the plug to the block, Note that #2 cylinder has nothing hooked at this point. When I lift the plug i'm holding to the block the engine stalls.

firing is ccw 18436572 checked that many times.

Re: 440 distributor problems [Re: Convertible Bee] #776905
08/19/10 04:33 PM
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Quote:

Hi,
have tried mopar direct fit 7mm wires, new just before driving to the nationals last friday, msd 8mm today, new cap + rotor today.

Test wire was the extra wire from msd set installed in #2 on distributor and sparkplug held on the engine block to see if it would spark.

As I noted, engine will start and run while I hold the plug to the block, Note that #2 cylinder has nothing hooked at this point. When I lift the plug i'm holding to the block the engine stalls.

firing is ccw 18436572 checked that many times.




Have you tried a new plug in #2. Sounds like the plug is shorting to ground under load.

Re: 440 distributor problems [Re: black64] #776906
08/19/10 11:33 PM
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Solon, Oh
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Hi
I've tried swapping plugs from this set around, as well as trying new plugs. The engine still misses or it stalls when the #2 wire is pulled.

Would a battery ground issue be the possible cause?
The car is restored, has a new ground strap from engine to firewall, battery neg to engine block, and battery neg jumper to the rad core support.







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