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Why a tenth off when deep staging #772718 08/13/10 12:54 AM 08/13/10 12:54 AM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,293 Northeast, Alpine, NY 9 9 Sec Phill OP On a road near you
9 Sec Phill OP On a road near you 9 Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,293 Northeast, Alpine, NY	Why does this happen, when I deep stage it adds a tenth to my pass, even when im covering less ground? I dont get it...Seems like I would be quicker not slower....

Re: Why a tenth off when deep staging [Re: 9 Sec Phill] #772719 08/13/10 01:03 AM 08/13/10 01:03 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,285 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,285 Bend,OR USA	Less rolling time(head start)to the start timers How is your reaction time deep versus shallow Lots oof ways to skin the kitty Training yourself to the difference in leaving on time(not red ) is the key to succes either way BTW, old dogs and new tricks are not to be used in the same sentence on the same day Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: Why a tenth off when deep staging [Re: 9 Sec Phill] #772720 08/13/10 01:06 AM 08/13/10 01:06 AM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,300 Northern Indiana Dunnuck Racing master
Dunnuck Racing master Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,300 Northern Indiana	When you shallow stage,you have a a little more area to cover before you break the beam,and start the timer.So,in effect,you get "a run at the lights"and build a little forward speed. So when you shallow stage,you lose your "head start",for lack of a better term. I hope I explained that well enough? www.dunnuckracing.com

Re: Why a tenth off when deep staging [Re: Cab_Burge] #772721 08/13/10 01:06 AM 08/13/10 01:06 AM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,293 Northeast, Alpine, NY 9 9 Sec Phill OP On a road near you
9 Sec Phill OP On a road near you 9 Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,293 Northeast, Alpine, NY	Quote: Less rolling time(head start)to the start timers How is your reaction time deep versus shallow Lots oof ways to skin the kitty Training yourself to the difference in leaving on time(not red ) is the key to succes either way BTW, old dogs and new tricks are not to be used in the same sentence on the same day My RT just staging on a .400 pro tree foot braking is .009 to .020. Deep, Ive tried a couple times now. Is .395 red to .00x.

Re: Why a tenth off when deep staging [Re: 9 Sec Phill] #772722 08/13/10 01:09 AM 08/13/10 01:09 AM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,300 Northern Indiana Dunnuck Racing master
Dunnuck Racing master Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,300 Northern Indiana	Looks like I got "treed"!! www.dunnuckracing.com

Re: Why a tenth off when deep staging [Re: 9 Sec Phill] #772723 08/13/10 01:10 AM 08/13/10 01:10 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila master
Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	You're not covering less ground - from a 1/4 mile standpoint. When you shallow stage you are tripping the lights ( starting the timer )from a faster roll than when you deep stage. Fastest 300

Re: Why a tenth off when deep staging [Re: 9 Sec Phill] #772724 08/13/10 01:12 AM 08/13/10 01:12 AM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 11,668 Fulton County, PA C CMcAllister Mr. Helpful
CMcAllister Mr. Helpful C Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 11,668 Fulton County, PA	Shallow staging gives you a running start at the starting line. Depending on the diameter of your front tire, your car has to move about 6-8 inches before the tire comes out of the beam; enough distance that you have some speed when that occurs. Deep staging causes your rate of travel to be slower when the tire comes out of the beam. If it costs you a full tenth, you must have tall front tires or the starting line beams at your track may be set a tad high. You will also see a difference in your reaction times by staging the car differently. If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.

Re: Why a tenth off when deep staging [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #772725 08/13/10 01:12 AM 08/13/10 01:12 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila master
Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: When you shallow stage,you have a a little more area to cover before you break the beam,and start the timer.So,in effect,you get "a run at the lights"and build a little forward speed. So when you shallow stage,you lose your "head start",for lack of a better term. I hope I explained that well enough? Done better them me Fastest 300

Re: Why a tenth off when deep staging [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #772726 08/13/10 01:14 AM 08/13/10 01:14 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila master
Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: Looks like I got "treed"!! Ya, but your explaination was better Fastest 300

Re: Why a tenth off when deep staging [Re: Crizila] #772727 08/13/10 01:19 AM 08/13/10 01:19 AM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,293 Northeast, Alpine, NY 9 9 Sec Phill OP On a road near you
9 Sec Phill OP On a road near you 9 Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,293 Northeast, Alpine, NY	Thanks all, was told this before but age is getting the best of me...Phill

Re: Why a tenth off when deep staging [Re: 9 Sec Phill] #772728 08/13/10 09:12 AM 08/13/10 09:12 AM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 501 Port Mcneill,B.C.Canada I Islandcuda mopar
Islandcuda mopar I Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 501 Port Mcneill,B.C.Canada	It,s called roll out is it not, good article in national dragster on this exact topic 67 cuda new best 1.395 60 10.240 at 128.58mph

Re: Why a tenth off when deep staging [Re: 9 Sec Phill] #772729 08/13/10 11:30 AM 08/13/10 11:30 AM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,441 Mo. S supercomp master
supercomp master S Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,441 Mo.	Quote: Thanks all, was told this before but age is getting the best of me...Phill If your redlighting on a .400 pro tree with a footbrake your age ain't affecting your reflexes any.

Re: Why a tenth off when deep staging [Re: Islandcuda] #772730 08/13/10 12:16 PM 08/13/10 12:16 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila master
Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: It,s called roll out is it not, good article in national dragster on this exact topic Yes, and my practice tree came with .320 programed in it - which they claim is an "average" roll out time Fastest 300

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