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Big block 440 rod casting numbers #771434
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I have a set of 440 rods with this casting # 1851535 how good are they if they check out to be in good condition

Re: Big block 440 rod casting numbers [Re: torqueaddict] #771435
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I read that this casting # is the same on virtually all 440 rods 6 pack and all with these be functional

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The six pack rods ended in 906, or was it 908? Either way, they looked like this rod. That number looks like a late-1950s number, probably the LY rod that is the standard rod.

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Re: Big block 440 rod casting numbers [Re: torqueaddict] #771437
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I have a set of 440 rods with this casting # 1851535 how good are they if they check out to be in good condition




Those are LY rods , there should be an LY ON the beam. Rebuild them , shotpeen to death , use ARP wavelock bolts , they'll be good for 50hp

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Re: Big block 440 rod casting numbers [Re: JohnRR] #771438
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What does LY mean and how much hp can these take

Re: Big block 440 rod casting numbers [Re: torqueaddict] #771439
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It's a term for that particular rod, look at it again , there should be an LY ON it , think it's opposite side of that number you posted .

How much HP can it take , no clue ,I don't know the history of the rods you have. But with the advent of cheap chinese junk rods it's not much more expensive to buy a NEW rod made from stronger material that hasn't had 35 years or more of unknown use/abuse.






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Re: Big block 440 rod casting numbers [Re: JohnRR] #771440
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I agree by the time you have them reconed ARP bolts resized you will have almost as much as a new aftermarket rod.They are a strong rod for factory.Im pushing close to 600HP on mine and its seen 7K quite a bit.I have Ross pistons so that cuts a lot of weight.I have one that came out of my 440 thats bent quite a bit.It was still spinning to 6500 and never cut loose.Rocky


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So when you get them checked out that doesnt mean anything they can still be insufficient around how much are a good set of aftermarket rods anyway

Re: Big block 440 rod casting numbers [Re: torqueaddict] #771442
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If you used punctuation it would be easier to understand what you are saying and easier to help answer your questions.

Re: Big block 440 rod casting numbers [Re: stumpy] #771443
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Excuse me mom.(just joking although that is something she would have said) Let me restate this: so no matter if you have the rods checked by a machinist or not they can still be bad? Around how much are a set of good rods, and where is a good place to purchase them.

Re: Big block 440 rod casting numbers [Re: torqueaddict] #771444
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No they won't be necessarily bad , but they are old and you don't know what use they were subjected to , that said there is a member that ran those rods for years in a race car running in the 9's (i think it was definitely 10's), I'm pretty sure he finally did break it.

But this is all speculation since your threads on the many subjects you posted are all over the place.

Figure out what your HP goals are and the use of the engine THEN ask your questions.

Re: Big block 440 rod casting numbers [Re: JohnRR] #771445
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I have stated previously what my goals are: 450-500 hp 500-600 fpt. And no track action, thats it really. I would only build a street motor, I am not really interested in track racing. And as cheap and reliable as possible, if I can use the stock rods,then thats great. I am really just fact finding and picking the brains of you mopar vets since I am such a noob

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If you aren't drag racing why do you need such a hot rod motor?

Re: Big block 440 rod casting numbers [Re: stumpy] #771447
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If you do something why not do it right? I dont want to be dissatisfied with my performance later on down the road. I figure if I do it correctly and map it properly I can build a significantly more powerful motor and be much more happy in the end.

Re: Big block 440 rod casting numbers [Re: JohnRR] #771448
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It's a term for that particular rod, look at it again , there should be an LY cast into it , think it's opposite side of that number you posted .

How much HP can it take , no clue ,I don't know the history of the rods you have. But with the advent of cheap chinese junk rods it's not much more expensive to buy a NEW rod made from stronger material that hasn't had 35 years or more of unknown use/abuse.







Well, John, let's get the facts straight here... you will not find LY or anything else "cast" in the rod.
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Re: Big block 440 rod casting numbers [Re: torqueaddict] #771449
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I have stated previously what my goals are: 450-500 hp 500-600 fpt. And no track action, thats it really. I would only build a street motor, I am not really interested in track racing. And as cheap and reliable as possible, if I can use the stock rods,then thats great. I am really just fact finding and picking the brains of you mopar vets since I am such a noob




I've heard that the common casting #1851535 "LY" 440 rods are capable of 500HP when prepped right, e.g. magnafluxed, shot peend, ARP bolts, etc.

I also read in the 2009 Amsoil/Mopar Muscle Magazine Engine Challenge that the engine builder who won the challenge used "LY" rods. His engine made 580HP.

As for myself, I had been contemplating the purchase of some aftermarket Chinese made rods, e.g. Eagle, K1, Scat, 440Source, RPM, etc. But with the current condition of Chrysler as we once knew it and the demolition of the historical St. Louis manufacturing facility where my 69 Road Runner was built, it's kind of left me feeling a bit sentimental towards Ma Mopar and the Made In America Chrysler Corporation of old.

So I just happened to see a set of LY rods for sale on PAWs eBay store for $148.00 with free shipping. The Stage II PAW prepped rods are checked for straightness and cracks, shot peened, reconditioned, fitted with ARP rod bolts, and balanced as a matching set. For a street engine making 500HP or less I don't think you can go wrong with a deal like that.

I just got the rods yesterday and am pleased with them.

PAW eBay store - link

For other information on Mopar Big Block connecting rod casting numbers, check out:

http://www.440source.com/stockrods.htm


Re: Big block 440 rod casting numbers [Re: dulcich] #771450
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It's a term for that particular rod, look at it again , there should be an LY cast into it , think it's opposite side of that number you posted .

How much HP can it take , no clue ,I don't know the history of the rods you have. But with the advent of cheap chinese junk rods it's not much more expensive to buy a NEW rod made from stronger material that hasn't had 35 years or more of unknown use/abuse.







Well, John, let's get the facts straight here... you will not find LY or anything else "cast" in the rod.
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Steve I could swear I have seen it on those rods in the past, but if I'm wrong it won't be the first time and it certainly will not be the last.

Since you are the mopar engine guru why don't you tell us all why the rod is called an LY rod ?

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Since the rods are FORGED, I agree that the numbers aren't CAST into them. Technicality I know, but I think that's what was inferred from the earlier post.

Back to the studio...


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Since the rods are FORGED, I agree that the numbers aren't CAST into them. Technicality I know, but I think that's what was inferred from the earlier post.

Back to the studio...




Yes I see now , a pretty lame attempt at humor on the part of dulchic

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Since the rods are FORGED, I agree that the numbers aren't CAST into them. Technicality I know, but I think that's what was inferred from the earlier post.

Back to the studio...




Yes I see now , a pretty lame attempt at humor on the part of dulchic




Well, John, you don't want to be spreading misinformation like that on a public forum; of course if you were talking about Pontiac rods, then you would be correct.
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