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black A12 bee "trans by Bruce" photo #758232 07/26/10 12:22 PM 07/26/10 12:22 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,400 Columbia Station, Ohio 69RTSE OP pro stock
69RTSE OP pro stock Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,400 Columbia Station, Ohio	I'm not sure who has this car now, but it used to belong to a guy named John that worked at the Ford Cleveland Casting Plant. Since the plant is closing in a few months, lots of stuff is getting scrapped. I found this old 8x10 picture from Dragway 42 in an old filing cabinet. Looks to be around mid 80's judging by the blue and white license plates...pretty cool. 6105953-69Beeresized.jpg (355 downloads) Last edited by 69RTSE; 07/26/10 12:29 PM.

Re: black A12 bee "trans by Bruce" photo [Re: 69RTSE] #758233 07/26/10 01:06 PM 07/26/10 01:06 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,048 Atlanta Indiana D Dave Watt master
Dave Watt master D Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,048 Atlanta Indiana	Very cool photo, thanks for posting. That car belongs to Pete and has been perfectly restored.

Re: black A12 bee "trans by Bruce" photo [Re: Dave Watt] #758234 07/26/10 02:53 PM 07/26/10 02:53 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,363 DTW drmopar master
drmopar master Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,363 DTW	That car is now in England. Pete sold it Dave. Cool pic for sure!! My old boss Rob owned it and my brother Dave (b5sixpackbee)worked on it. -------------------- RM27H9G 4 speed F8/tan guts RS27L9G auto B5/black guts WM23H9G auto F5/green guts 2021 Challenger 392 Indigo/black guts 2019 Charger Daytona R/T F8 on black 2018 Ram Sport Hemi 4x4

Re: black A12 bee "trans by Bruce" photo [Re: drmopar] #758235 07/26/10 02:57 PM 07/26/10 02:57 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,363 DTW drmopar master
drmopar master Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,363 DTW	The car restored before it went to England 6106243-a12_site_2.jpg (315 downloads) -------------------- RM27H9G 4 speed F8/tan guts RS27L9G auto B5/black guts WM23H9G auto F5/green guts 2021 Challenger 392 Indigo/black guts 2019 Charger Daytona R/T F8 on black 2018 Ram Sport Hemi 4x4

Re: black A12 bee "trans by Bruce" photo [Re: drmopar] #758236 07/26/10 05:10 PM 07/26/10 05:10 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 610 new york B badsixpack mopar
badsixpack mopar B Joined: May 2005 Posts: 610 new york	I have old time slips showing this thing was running low 12S, I think it would run mid 11s now no problem.. 6106490-rrxx9bee.jpg (250 downloads)

Re: black A12 bee "trans by Bruce" photo [Re: drmopar] #758237 07/27/10 08:23 AM 07/27/10 08:23 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,978 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,978 U.S.S.A.	Quote: That car is now in England. Pete sold it Dave. Cool pic for sure!! My old boss Rob owned it and my brother Dave (b5sixpackbee)worked on it. That's a shame it left the continent , will probably never be seen here in the states again. Last edited by JohnRR; 07/27/10 02:35 PM.

Re: black A12 bee "trans by Bruce" photo [Re: JohnRR] #758238 07/27/10 02:24 PM 07/27/10 02:24 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,691 The Last Frontier Alaska_A12 master
Alaska_A12 master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,691 The Last Frontier	Quote: Quote: That car is now in England. Pete sold it Dave. Cool pic for sure!! My old boss Rob owned it and my brother Dave (b5sixpackbee)worked on it. That's a same it left the continent , will probably never be seen here in the states again. You should have bought it John!! ______________________________________________ http://regcars.homestead.com/car107.html

Re: black A12 bee "trans by Bruce" photo [Re: Alaska_A12] #758239 07/27/10 02:35 PM 07/27/10 02:35 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,978 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,978 U.S.S.A.	Quote: Quote: Quote: That car is now in England. Pete sold it Dave. Cool pic for sure!! My old boss Rob owned it and my brother Dave (b5sixpackbee)worked on it. That's a shame it left the continent , will probably never be seen here in the states again. You should have bought it John!! I don't have your bank roll Jim, that car was flipped to Pete for big bucks I can only imagine what it took to get it out of his po$$e$$ion.

Re: black A12 bee "trans by Bruce" photo [Re: JohnRR] #758240 07/27/10 02:53 PM 07/27/10 02:53 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,363 DTW drmopar master
drmopar master Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,363 DTW	Flipped to Pete? It was sold to Pete. Little money was made on that deal. Pete did well from what I heard, but that is his business. -------------------- RM27H9G 4 speed F8/tan guts RS27L9G auto B5/black guts WM23H9G auto F5/green guts 2021 Challenger 392 Indigo/black guts 2019 Charger Daytona R/T F8 on black 2018 Ram Sport Hemi 4x4

Re: black A12 bee "trans by Bruce" photo [Re: drmopar] #758241 07/27/10 03:24 PM 07/27/10 03:24 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 610 new york B badsixpack mopar
badsixpack mopar B Joined: May 2005 Posts: 610 new york	truth is , i lost 65k on the black bee, and I sold it to a guy in canada,who then sold it to one of his customers in england..With the money I bought a 70 tripple black 4 spd hemi gtx

Re: black A12 bee "trans by Bruce" photo [Re: badsixpack] #758242 07/27/10 04:49 PM 07/27/10 04:49 PM
Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 798 Houston TX G GregCon super stock
GregCon super stock G Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 798 Houston TX	Regarding A12 cars..... Around 1982 in Pflugerville, TX we used to see a Butterscotch Super Bee sitting on the side of what was a fairly major road; the one that connects P-ville to I35. Sometimes it would be there, sometimes it would be gone. We had a friend with the DPS run the plates and found the name of the guy who owned it. We then called him. It turns out he was an interstate truck driver who used the Super Bee to drive when he was home, and left it on the side of the highway when he was driving. The car was optioned with a 4 speed, 4.10 Dana (we crawled under it and looked), black interior, black vinyl top. It had no air cleaner, but it still had the original hood. You could peek in the scoop and see the two outer carb had been removed and blocked off with silicone and aluminum plates. There were lots of scratches on the roof where the hood had been placed when it was off. It was a fairly straight car with original paint and a bullet dent on the rear of the trunk lid Anyway, in a deep South voice he told us it "was for sale but not for a nickel less than $3500." On hearing that, we lost all hope - the guy was crazy and unreasonable and being teenagers we had no money. We were used to buying cars for under $300. A few months later an older guy who did a lot of 'flipping' (I hate that word) of Mopars bought it and I have no idea where it went.

Re: black A12 bee "trans by Bruce" photo [Re: badsixpack] #758243 07/27/10 04:53 PM 07/27/10 04:53 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 6,111 Detroit Kidsixpack master
Kidsixpack master Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 6,111 Detroit	I am truely saddened by this Not flipped Not that there is anything wrong with that.... KID

Re: black A12 bee "trans by Bruce" photo [Re: drmopar] #758244 07/27/10 05:16 PM 07/27/10 05:16 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,978 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,978 U.S.S.A.	Quote: Flipped to Pete? It was sold to Pete. Little money was made on that deal. Pete did well from what I heard, but that is his business. Flipped, sold, you say tomato, I say tomatoe ... When I first saw it offered I saw a figure of 100k being thrown around by the FINDER/flipper ???

Re: black A12 bee "trans by Bruce" photo [Re: badsixpack] #758245 07/27/10 05:18 PM 07/27/10 05:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,978 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,978 U.S.S.A.	Quote: truth is , i lost 65k on the black bee, and I sold it to a guy in canada,who then sold it to one of his customers in england..With the money I bought a 70 tripple black 4 spd hemi gtx Wow , that's too bad , I usually end up doing the same thing when I flip something ... though not to that extreme ... rarely make a profit, which is why I'm not in that business ...

Re: black A12 bee "trans by Bruce" photo [Re: JohnRR] #758246 07/27/10 06:00 PM 07/27/10 06:00 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 610 new york B badsixpack mopar
badsixpack mopar B Joined: May 2005 Posts: 610 new york	john, the car was a little too much for the street and i hated to sell it. at the time i had been diagnosed with a rare blood problem,so a guy made me an offer on the car,i didn't want to sell it but i thought i was really sick,so i agreed to sell it. the guy wired me a deposit and had emails of us talking back and forth. i got new blood tests that said i didn't have what they thought i had, i told the guy that i didn't want to sell the car now,but he threatened me with lawyers and all, so i had to sell it.and that's the real story

Re: black A12 bee "trans by Bruce" photo [Re: badsixpack] #758247 07/27/10 06:47 PM 07/27/10 06:47 PM
Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 798 Houston TX G GregCon super stock
GregCon super stock G Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 798 Houston TX	Generally the guy would have no recourse unless he could prove he suffered a direct loss as a result of your changing your mind. For example, if he could show a judge he had acted on the agreement to buy by breaking a CD to finance the purchase. Even then, the judge would most likely tell you you had to pay him for his losses but not force you to sell.

Re: black A12 bee "trans by Bruce" photo [Re: badsixpack] #758248 07/27/10 06:55 PM 07/27/10 06:55 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,691 The Last Frontier Alaska_A12 master
Alaska_A12 master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,691 The Last Frontier	Quote: john, the car was a little too much for the street and i hated to sell it. at the time i had been diagnosed with a rare blood problem,so a guy made me an offer on the car,i didn't want to sell it but i thought i was really sick,so i agreed to sell it. the guy wired me a deposit and had emails of us talking back and forth. i got new blood tests that said i didn't have what they thought i had, i told the guy that i didn't want to sell the car now,but he threatened me with lawyers and all, so i had to sell it.and that's the real story Man that's a shame Pete. One man's hobby is another man's business I guess. ______________________________________________ http://regcars.homestead.com/car107.html

Re: black A12 bee "trans by Bruce" photo [Re: Alaska_A12] #758249 07/27/10 07:03 PM 07/27/10 07:03 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 6,446 NJ-USA H HPMike master
HPMike master H Joined: May 2005 Posts: 6,446 NJ-USA	Was/is a great car. One of the most solid cars I have ever seen... Having been fortunate enough to be given the chance to bring that one back to life, I can honestly say it was a great project. Wish it stayed around here, but that is how it goes. Shame that nice motor will likely never be used to it's potential any more... Would be fun to see the look on the guys face after seeing the engine compartment look like this...... 6108525-frame_connectors_on_the_super_beebefore_paint_and_after_043_Large.jpg (163 downloads)

Re: black A12 bee "trans by Bruce" photo [Re: HPMike] #758250 07/27/10 07:05 PM 07/27/10 07:05 PM
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HPMike master H Joined: May 2005 Posts: 6,446 NJ-USA	Then take it for a spin and get a little bit of this... 6108527-petex9BEE@.jpg (210 downloads)

Re: black A12 bee "trans by Bruce" photo [Re: HPMike] #758251 07/27/10 07:31 PM 07/27/10 07:31 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,103 Phila Pa S scatpacktom master
scatpacktom master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,103 Phila Pa	Hey Pete, The good thing is that they were wrong. I had heard what went on with you and the Bee. I just want you to know that that car will forever be burned into my memory. The car was just stunning,I would just marvel at the paint on that car. I know it had plenty of smoke too. It is better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all. Seems fitting for this situation.

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