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Did Mopar do any plating on the fasteners back then? #757888 07/26/10 01:13 AM 07/26/10 01:13 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 403 Western Oregon bull OP mopar
bull OP mopar Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 403 Western Oregon	Stuff like pan bolts, fender bolts, interior screws, etc.? Did they do any nickel plating (or any kind of plating) on fasteners like they do now? I assume they used some chrome in certain spots but did the hidden fasteners gat any corrosion treatment back in say, 66-74? If so what did they use? 1968 Charger 383/2bbl/4spd (1 of 74) 1994 Dakota Sport 3.9L/AT/2WD 2003 Durango SLT 4.7L/AT/4X4 Yes, all Dodges and nothing else

Re: Did Mopar do any plating on the fasteners back then? [Re: bull] #757889 07/26/10 09:08 AM 07/26/10 09:08 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio Challenger 1 Too Many Posts
Challenger 1 Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio	Yes I'm pretty sure each fastner had some kind of plating. I have a Mopar fastner guide that has all the different platings used in it.

Re: Did Mopar do any plating on the fasteners back then? [Re: Challenger 1] #757890 07/26/10 03:29 PM 07/26/10 03:29 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 403 Western Oregon bull OP mopar
bull OP mopar Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 403 Western Oregon	Quote: Yes I'm pretty sure each fastner had some kind of plating. I have a Mopar fastner guide that has all the different platings used in it. Don't take the time to run through the whole list but do you have some examples of a few items? 1968 Charger 383/2bbl/4spd (1 of 74) 1994 Dakota Sport 3.9L/AT/2WD 2003 Durango SLT 4.7L/AT/4X4 Yes, all Dodges and nothing else

Re: Did Mopar do any plating on the fasteners back then? [Re: bull] #757891 07/26/10 03:39 PM 07/26/10 03:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,076 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,076 Oregon	Black phosphate on some, yellow zinc, cad, etc. Just depended on the application and the design engineer.

Re: Did Mopar do any plating on the fasteners back then? [Re: AndyF] #757892 07/26/10 03:58 PM 07/26/10 03:58 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,371 Iowa burdar Owen's Dad
burdar Owen's Dad Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,371 Iowa	The fastener guide has been a huge help to me. This is just a very general description. The most common finishes are zinc(silver coating) zinc dichromate(yellow/gold coating) and phosphate.(gray coating) A lot of interior screws were chrome. Most things attached to the firewall were zinc plated. A lot of the phosphate bolts were used underneith and for attaching bumpers exc... Obviously, things will vary depending on year/body style exc... Last edited by burdar; 07/26/10 04:02 PM.

Re: Did Mopar do any plating on the fasteners back then? [Re: burdar] #757893 07/26/10 08:09 PM 07/26/10 08:09 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 403 Western Oregon bull OP mopar
bull OP mopar Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 403 Western Oregon	Thanks. I'll have to see about getting that book. Mainly I was just curious how much of it really did get plated because I know some of it didn't. My second goal was to see if there's something a little more durable than zinc that looks about the same, like maybe electoless nickel. 1968 Charger 383/2bbl/4spd (1 of 74) 1994 Dakota Sport 3.9L/AT/2WD 2003 Durango SLT 4.7L/AT/4X4 Yes, all Dodges and nothing else

Re: Did Mopar do any plating on the fasteners back then? [Re: bull] #757894 07/26/10 10:10 PM 07/26/10 10:10 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,371 Iowa burdar Owen's Dad
burdar Owen's Dad Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,371 Iowa	A lot of parts were left bare but I'm pretty sure all of the fasteners would have had some type of sacrificial plating. Zinc should hold up very well. Most of these cars arn't driven in harsh weather and salt like they once were. The plating should last a long time.

Re: Did Mopar do any plating on the fasteners back then? [Re: burdar] #757895 07/26/10 10:17 PM 07/26/10 10:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN A ahy master
ahy master A Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN	I disassembled an original '70 Challenger and found all the fastner types mentioned (black phosphate, zinc, zinc di-chromate, chrome). After many years, the black phosphate bolts may look "un-plated". I found the fastener kits from "Mr G" in Texas to be quite accurate. Mr G also sells individual fasteners. His website may be a reference for you also.

Re: Did Mopar do any plating on the fasteners back then? [Re: ahy] #757896 07/26/10 10:45 PM 07/26/10 10:45 PM
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Challenger 1 Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio	Quote: I found the fastener kits from "Mr G" in Texas to be quite accurate. Mr G also sells individual fasteners. His website may be a reference for you also. I bought a couple different MR G interior screw kits back in 2004 and they were not even close alot of them. I still have them because I didn't use them. Hopefully he has gotten better nowadays. I wasn't impressed.

Re: Did Mopar do any plating on the fasteners back then? [Re: bull] #757897 07/27/10 09:05 AM 07/27/10 09:05 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,636 Nashville, TN M MOPARMIKE69 master
MOPARMIKE69 master M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,636 Nashville, TN	You mentioned nickel plating and chrome plating in the original post. No they didn't use those types of plating except on maybe interior screws, but most every other nut bolt or screw was protected with the types of treatments mentioned earlier from the original manufacturer. Some were then painted. So the answer to the original question is yes. 69 Road Runner vert 69 GTX hard top 70 Road Runner 4 speed 70 Hemi Cuda vert

Re: Did Mopar do any plating on the fasteners back then? [Re: MOPARMIKE69] #757898 07/27/10 07:23 PM 07/27/10 07:23 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,501 It's a dry heat gtx6970 Too Many Posts
gtx6970 Too Many Posts Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,501 It's a dry heat	I can't think of a single fastener on a mopar that didn't have some kind of plating

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