4.10 or 4.30?
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06/18/08 02:16 AM
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I'm about two steps away from having the car finished (for now - you know how it is), and one of those steps is a gear swap in my 8 3/4.
Right now, I'm running 3.23 Sure Grip in a 489 case (freshly rebuilt, green bearings, axles, etc.) - which I know are completely the wrong gears for my setup.
I've got a 413 that is putting out about 450 - 475 to the crank. Power is going thru a built 727 Torqueflite with a 9.5 inch California Converter by Art Carr TC. Stall is around 3,800 RPM.
You can see that makes for an interesting combination with the 3.23s! It just won't lock up (which goes without saying). Fortunately, the thing has never heated up or been flogged.
I need the gears to make the combo - so my thought is going with either a 4.10 or 4.30 ratio. Car is for the street. Very little highway driving. Occasional blast down the 1/8 mile.
Any thoughts on the gears to get here guys and gals?
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Re: 4.10 or 4.30?
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06/18/08 02:28 AM
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Tire size will be your deciding factor. Anything less than 30", and i think the 4.30's are a bit steep. FWIW, I had 4.30's in my car, and switched them down to 410's. Liked them, but made highway time a little crappy. Since then, I've gone one more step down to 3.73's I would think you are better to narrow the choices to 410's or 391's, but that's my . ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Twocents.gif)
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Re: 4.10 or 4.30?
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06/18/08 02:32 AM
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how tall are your tires? 4.30's are a lot of gear with less then 30" tall tires on the street ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Twocents.gif) Back when I used to drive around on 4.10's with a 28" tall tire not too bad.
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Re: 4.10 or 4.30?
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Keep in mind that there is approximately a 5% difference between 4.10 and 4.30 gears. For examle: If you would cruise at 3000 rpm with the 4.10's, with the 4.30's you would go the same speed at 3150 rpm. Big woop. You'll barely notice the difference. For the usage you described I would probably get the 4.30's and use a 28" tire.
Last edited by GomangoCuda; 06/18/08 11:45 AM.
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Re: 4.10 or 4.30?
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06/18/08 10:25 PM
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I believe the RPM range on the cam is 1,500 to 7,500 if I'm not mistaken.
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Re: 4.10 or 4.30?
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06/19/08 12:35 AM
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1500-7500 usable rpm? i think not. more then likely if its a true 7500rpm camshaft, there will be nothing under 3000rpm.
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Re: 4.10 or 4.30?
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06/19/08 01:00 AM
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Like I said, I could be wrong! I got home and dug out my cam specs (it has been a few years since I looked). Here you go: Melling Performance 440 (#23302 WG-1031) Cam Lift (int/exh) .320/.320 Valve Lift (int/exh) .480/.480 SAE Duration (int/exh) 302/302 SAE Timing: BTC = 43; ABC = 79;BBC = 79; ATC = 43 Lobe Center (int/exh) 108/108 Lash Hot (int/exh) HYD/HYD .050 Duration (int/exh) 236/236 .050 Timing BTC = 10; ABC = 46; BBC = 46; ATC = 10
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Re: 4.10 or 4.30?
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06/19/08 01:03 AM
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melling eh? anyways.. 4.10 or 4.30's won't make a difference IMO.
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