Have any of you switched cams in a 69 Dart with the motor in the car? I'll remove the radiator and fan and the grille, it looks like I'll probably have to remove the front bumper also. I'm wondering if any factory sheetmetal stuff will be in the way. I'm not worried about degree'ing the cam in, I can do that with the heads on and go off the valve spring retainer, I've done it that way and double checked it the next time I had the heads off.

I'm just thinking ahead here, if I get the money together I'd like to have a custom cam before the end of summer. I'm gonna go with a custom Comp cam only because I can get a discount on Comp.

thinking you got too much dur @ 50 ?

I was gonna pull my cam, and i ripped the frontend apart.

i never took the bumper off, i didnt think i needed too.

I never actaully took the cam out, so i cant give you definate.

Sledge, too much overlap, no compression.

The cam is a CamMotion roller:

281/283 at .050, 706/661 lift with 1.5 rockers, ground on a 104.

We've discussed it here several times and everyone seems to agree it bleeds off alot of compression and isn't at all the 'right' cam for a 500" low deck with 440-1 ported heads, only 11.9 compression, and only shifting at 6600.

The cam works GREAT on 93 octane fuel, and I've ran even less octane on the street. So if you're looking for a street roller.............

It seems like most here want me to be around 272/282 at .050, ground on a 110, and whatever lift maybe 700'ish.

I'll call Comp next week to get their grind recommendation.

hey bob whats your cranking compression.

I have a 74 Dart and I switched mine with the engine in, I had the radiator and grill out.

In my 68, did not remove bumper or grill.

changed out the 440 cam in a 69 dart, and the 3 front cam bearings too, don't remember having to take too many items off of front. Grille-rad, IIRC.

Hey Bob - Your times look pretty good and so does the 60ft...and runs on pump gas. How much are you hoping to gain from the swap, or are you just looking for better idle quality?

Good luck bob....

When I switched cams in my 73 duster I took the grill, radiator/elec fans, and the hood latch support. I honestly thought it was pretty easy, I'm not very tall and the short overhangs on an A-body make it real easy to lean over the car.