Re: What MSD doesn't tell you.
[Re: Crizila]
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do you know any Robert Frost poems hidden in your subliminal mind?
There was an old man from Kent,.....
U mean Nantucket!
I heard about that dude...
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Re: What MSD doesn't tell you.
[Re: GregCon]
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As for "MSD is the most successful so that makes them the best" let me list a few others that would fit into that category:
Chevrolet (in the 1960's) Microsoft GE Michael Jackson Jesse Jackson Oprah Winfrey AT&T
So we see that the skill of learning how to be sucky and make people still buy your product is not to be confused with 'best'.
where did you come from? ever think about going back
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Re: What MSD doesn't tell you.
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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well as a student of auto electronics, take this exp as a learning curve. nothing else. like BG said every Co has its kooky mgrs and workers who only look out for the bouns. anyway the problem at hand is your sine input Vs the needed digital. you dont explain if you need a leading edge and at what level of triggering was required. a simple lookl with an O scope will clear that up. asle a clamping diode will clean up your rising and falling edges of the pulses. ive fixed dozen ignitions and every unit has different "clean" input requirements. im sure since you are top dog student you realized you probably got a magnetized reluctor by some dummy using a steel feeler gauge and therefore providing that sine magnetic pulse. check it with a gauss meter and let us know. you can fire a digital with a 45% slope on input sooo something is not right in whooville today.
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Re: What MSD doesn't tell you.
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Re: What MSD doesn't tell you.
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OK, name an ignition system you think is BETTER than MSD and tell us why....not just because you say so.
Monte
I think the Crane HI-7 and HI-8 ignitions with the DEC9500 boxes were the best when they came out 10+ years ago, and still work as good if not better than any MSD units. It's really too bad Crane didn't market those any better, they are very dependable. Alot of the Pro Stockers used them until they were mandated to use the MSD 7530T ?? box. I know Warren Johnson used Crane till the very end.
Anyway, I still use my Crane with no issues, after getting rid of my MSD which always had issues. I have two spares, so I'm good till I die..
Chris..
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Re: What MSD doesn't tell you.
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I think you are part of a conspiracy put in place by MSD.A sleeper cell do you know any Robert Frost poems hidden in your subliminal mind?
Oh man ............ that is the funniest bit of writing I have put eye to in a good bit. Way funnier than I expect from a " serious " forum like this. Bob , I'd love to expound on your comedic brilliance some more , but as you well know , The woods are lovely , dark and deep. But I have promises to keep......and miles to go before I sleep.
Miles to go before I sleep.
Nope , not a Frost fan per se , but a huge Charlie Bronson fan.
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Re: What MSD doesn't tell you.
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OK, name an ignition system you think is BETTER than MSD and tell us why....not just because you say so.
Monte
W&H Daul Coil and Fairbanks Morse if we were back in the 1950s Just kidding Monte,I want to see if I could sound as stupid as some of the brilliant comments.Barry Grant,Indy,MSD and many others get bashed cause of someones fkups.Usually if someone has a ligitimate claim the manufactures bend over backwards to help.Most issues is caused by frustration and attitudes.
You've got to be kidding about Barry Grant.
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Re: What MSD doesn't tell you.
[Re: sshemi]
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My take on MSD is this. Over the years i have had a few MSD boxes, and for the most part they have worked fine. I did have a problem with a 6AL a few years back, that i proved was in the box, but hey, stuff breaks, nothing is infallible. What MSD enjoys is a virtual stranglehold on the performance ignition market.Its a niche market that they OWN. Pretty much any magazine you look at, the various prices you see they're stuff listed for are identical, same pretty much with Jegs, summit and everybody else, with very rare exceptions. As they have hardly any competition, and its unlikely anybody is going to step up and spend the R&D and initial investent and marketing money to challenge them, its very likely the generally poor customer service they provide will ever get any better. Why would it, no other company makes a similar product that would force MSD to keep they're feet to the fire from a " treating customers great" standpoint. Its kinda like the car business 25 years ago, only the domestics were out there, and say what you will, quality was many times lacking. With the Japanese and everybody else now offering cars here, it has " forced" the product across the board to be better. Its just a plain old fact that that is how it is. MSD has nobody, competition wise, to force them to do the above. Its actually somewhat of a feather in they're cap that the products are as reliable as they are with this being the case. Long story short, they aint perfect, and they are a little crusty to talk to, but they own the only game in town Kinda like Indy in some ways
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