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Weiand Action Plus or Crosswinds Air Gap?
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07/09/10 06:10 PM
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Any thoughts of what would be the better intake between a Weiand Action Plus and a Crosswind Air Gap copy? I have the Action Plus but I could sell it and just about cover the cost of a Crosswinds. Its tentatively going on a 360 with around 9-9.5 compression, stock home ported heads, Holley 650, headers, Comp XE 274 cam, and MP electronic ignition kit with MSD coil. All hooked to 4 speed manual and 3.91 rear in my 72 Duster.
Dont have the motor yet, but I'm going to get it tomorrow. Which ever I use, I'll port match the intake. And hood clearence in not an issue as I'm going to be running a scoop. Its pretty much going to be a street car with a trip or 2 down the track.
Getting this engine to replace my 318 for the time being till I eventually build a 408.
I know the crosswind is not american and I wont be taking away from any jobs because I already own the Action plus and cant afford an Edelbrock Aip gap right now.
Any input?
Butch
1972 Duster
318 4 speed
1958 392 Hemi engine
waiting to be built!!!!!
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Re: Weiand Action Plus or Crosswinds Air Gap?
[Re: Dakota_Don]
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07/09/10 07:58 PM
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If I run a 1-2" spacer on the Weiand, will it get me close, performance wize to an RPM or air gap?
1972 Duster
318 4 speed
1958 392 Hemi engine
waiting to be built!!!!!
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Re: Weiand Action Plus or Crosswinds Air Gap?
[Re: DaytonaTurbo]
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07/10/10 10:51 AM
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The Weiand is rated from 500 to 6000RPMs- I believe. Many think the Weiand is identical to the Edelbrock Performer (Its rating is idle to 5500). I say run the Weiand and have fun.
Keep old mopars alive.
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Re: Weiand Action Plus or Crosswinds Air Gap?
[Re: 2boltmain]
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07/10/10 11:38 AM
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I also have an Edelbrock Performer on the 318 thats in the car now that I could also use. I heard that the Performer isnt very good, most say that your better off with a stock 360 intake.
The Weiand looks to be about 1-2 inches taller than the Performer, so I would guess that it would work better for a mildly worked motor.
So Weiand, Eddy Performer, or Air Gap copy. I guess I could also sell both and get an Eddy Performer Air Gap or RPM, question is, is the Eddy version that much better than the Crosswinds? Crosswinds= $159 shipped, RPM Air Gap,=$290 I think, thats a huge difference.
The 360 I'm hopefully getting today is a 73, with 10,000 miles on a rebuild(unknown specs, but it was bored, maged, cleaned, freeze plugs, cam bearings, ect.) just dont know if cast or forged, compresion, cam specs(says enough to hear it). But in any case in was in a 71 Dart running great a month ago and comes with a 4 speed trans and the whole deal is $500(down from $900), so a $300 intake is alot on a budget setup.
Butch
1972 Duster
318 4 speed
1958 392 Hemi engine
waiting to be built!!!!!
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Re: Weiand Action Plus or Crosswinds Air Gap?
[Re: chache876]
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07/11/10 12:35 AM
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crosswind fit perfect on my 360...actually it fit better than my old edelbrock manifold
 , I don't care what some may say about the Crosswind, they bash it because its a china peice, that doesn't prove Sh*t!!! I love mine, works great  .
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Re: Weiand Action Plus or Crosswinds Air Gap?
[Re: DusterKrazy]
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07/11/10 05:01 PM
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I did a back to back dyno --Airgap vs Crosswind on a mild smallblock with small hyd street roller 224-232 range , alum heads, 425HP with Eddy and near 30 less with Crosswind--It has small runner volume compared to the Edelbrock--I think as cheap as good used intakes are no way I would ever use a China job--we did these back to back with NO other changes --did it as fast as the RTV would cure--same everything but the intakes.
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Re: Weiand Action Plus or Crosswinds Air Gap?
[Re: pishta]
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07/11/10 05:45 PM
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I have a crosswind and the gasket match to a Felpro gasket was perfect, closer tolerances and gasket port shape out of the box than the Edelbrock Air-gap. Their ports are more oval and smaller compared to the Crosswinds square ports. I had both back to back on the bench, all other critical dimensions were identical. Holley, Weiand: have you flipped one over lately?
As for not buying Chinese junk (not the boats) better do your homework: SCAT, nope. 
Have you even run this manifold yet?
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Re: Weiand Action Plus or Crosswinds Air Gap?
[Re: 2boltmain]
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07/11/10 10:02 PM
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Thanks for all the input guys, maybe I'll give the Weiand a shot and see how it is. I got the motor home yesterday, seems to have cast or hyper pistons( the kinf with 4 valve reliefs so it looks like a lower comp piston), but on the plus side which blew me away,  it has 915 360 J heads with stock exhaust valves but 2.02 stainless intakes, with what looks like new springs, and adjustable rockers, No idea on the cam or anything, but looks like a got a decent motor with some good stuff on it, now I just have to figure out what to do with it!!!
1972 Duster
318 4 speed
1958 392 Hemi engine
waiting to be built!!!!!
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