572 loses oil pressure upon deceleration ????
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07/06/10 01:24 PM
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I have a World products 4.500 bore X 4.500 stroke WEDGE engine with MILODON 31460 oil pan and 21176 oil pump kit... It has TWO pickups in the 7" deep pan. Both towards the rear of the pan.. When I make a pass and pass the "stripe", I hit the brakes and the motor loses oil pressure.. I didn't notice it the first time I brought it out for a pass UNTIL I was on the return road... I pulled the distributor and had a REAL HARD TIME getting the oil pump to work with the drill and the piece of HEX STOCK I used to turn the oil pump... The second time out,, the SAME THING happened.. I shut the motor off and brought it home and pulled the pan.. I looked at Main #2 and it looked FINE!!! SO,, I put it back together and made a pass on the 4th of JULY (sunday)... The MOTOR ran FINE until the stripe,,, I hit the brakes ,, the oil pressure dropped to ZERO,, I gave it some gas and the pressure jumped to 40 psi.. I then SHUT THE IGNITION off and coasted off the track... I had to PULL THE DISTRIBUTOR AGAIN to get the oil pump to work because the cranking of the engine is'nt enough to get the pump working... I started it up and it looks like I lost a couple of ROD BEARINGS... It sounds like the convertor bolts are loose when I shut it off and the oil pressure gauge is ALL OVER THE PLACE>> Can SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME what is WRONG with this thing????????
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Re: 572 loses oil pressure upon deceleration ????
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07/06/10 06:17 PM
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My motor is a 500" low deck stock 400 block with the 440Source fab aluminum pan and single line static external oil line. I run 8 quarts in the pan and never see low oil pressure on deceleration. My setup may be completely different than yours but I agree with trying an extra quart of oil, and if that doesn't work I'd shut the motor off immediately and buy an accusump or accumulator.
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07/06/10 07:00 PM
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Re: 572 loses oil pressure upon deceleration ????
[Re: B G Racing]
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07/06/10 07:51 PM
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The main issues are two much oil to the topend,returning the oil to the sump and windage.
WHO HERE has plumbed this oil back to the pan with hoses off the valve covers?
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Re: 572 loses oil pressure upon deceleration ????
[Re: nosboy]
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07/06/10 08:24 PM
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I called the engine builder ( Ted) and he told me to bring it back to him... I also talked to Milodon and he told me of an updated pan, and he also told me to send the pan to him and he will take a look at it... As far as the restriction to the oiling system in the Indy -1 heads,,, I DO NOT have restrictors,, but TED THINKS that I would have oil FLYING out of the evac tubes in my valve covers if there was too much oil in the valve covers... The evac tubes are clear and they look a little WHITE stained and do NOT LOOK like there was oil trying to escape!! Milodon says 8 quart oil pan and 1 for the filter,, so I DID HAVE NINE (9) QUARTS in the motor... Maybe sending the oilpan to MILODON is the right answer and restricting the heads oiling NAD ADDING a THREE QUART accusump will SOLVE the problems..... it seems cheaper than a dry sump...
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Re: 572 loses oil pressure upon deceleration ????
[Re: bigtimeauto]
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07/06/10 08:37 PM
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The main issues are two much oil to the topend,returning the oil to the sump and windage.the secondary issues are bearing clearences,oil airation and uncovering the pick.This varys from engine combo to engine combo as well as chassis suspension reactions(wheelstands and nose dives).The only system that is not effected to any degree is a dry sump.
Good info from BG. I have my heads restricted to .050 with a 9 quart charlies pan. no issues unless i get hard on the brakes.
Restricting the oil to the rockers on any race engine is the first thing,.050 to .070 seems to be the norm for roller rockers.Even on a street engine oil pressure will drop under hard braking.
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