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Re: Horrible rattle is driving me crazy! I can't find it. [Re: MRHWS] #740881
07/06/10 10:12 AM
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Did you install the fuel tank pad when the tank was replaced?




Yes. And the tank itself is very tight. There's a lot of other stuff mentioned above that I had not thought about that I can check. I know that my package tray is not fastened down tightly, but I don't think that would give the metal on metal sound that I'm hearing. Plus again it sounds like its coming from way back in the car, not just from the rear of the interior. Pinion snubber bolts sound worth checking too.

The best thing would be to go for a ride in the trunk, but I really don't trust my wife to drive the car with me back there.

Re: Horrible rattle is driving me crazy! I can't find it. [Re: Gusteve] #740882
07/06/10 10:22 AM
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Found another possibility last night.
I went around and tapped on the trunk lid and rear filler panel with my fingers and found some rattles. Picture shows the metal structure underneath the filler panel that was rattling and some temporary shims...

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Re: Horrible rattle is driving me crazy! I can't find it. [Re: 1BAD68] #740883
07/06/10 10:23 AM
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By tapping with my fingers I found a spot on the trunk lid that makes the same noise also.
The old sealer is coming loose in different spots.
I still have to test drive it but it sounds like the rattling I hear when driving.

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Re: Horrible rattle is driving me crazy! I can't find it. [Re: Gusteve] #740884
07/06/10 11:36 AM
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Trunk torsion bar rods were notorious for rattling in that year. They barely touch each other and send off a bad rattle type noise. As another writer said: a piece of heater hose between the bars, solves the problem.

Re: Horrible rattle is driving me crazy! I can't find it. [Re: drmonday] #740885
07/06/10 11:41 AM
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Trunk torsion bar rods were notorious for rattling in that year. They barely touch each other and send off a bad rattle type noise. As another writer said: a piece of heater hose between the bars, solves the problem.




Already did that. I was pretty sure that was it but the rubber hose didn't make a difference.

But, I just went out and started man-handling the rear of the car. By bouncing up and down hard enough I heard the rattle. I think I need to get my wife or kid out there with me to poke their head around while I bounce it up and down. Being able to re-produce it in the garage should make it much easier to track down.

Re: Horrible rattle is driving me crazy! I can't find it. [Re: Gusteve] #740886
07/06/10 11:44 AM
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On my '69 Coronet 500, one side of the upper shock brace had broken the welds to the frame

Re: Horrible rattle is driving me crazy! I can't find [Re: 451Mopar] #740887
07/06/10 07:11 PM
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Looks like it might be the upper shock mounts. The bolts are tight, but the shocks wiggle around. I think the shoulder on the bolts must be too long, so they didn't actually grip and compress the rubber grommet on the shocks.

That would also explain why it made the same noise before I replaced them, since I re-used the existing bolts. I'll know for sure tommorow night after I have the chance to replace the bolts.

Re: Horrible rattle is driving me crazy! I can't find [Re: Gusteve] #740888
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Did that do the trick?
After shimming the trunk lid and filler panel, I still have that rattle.

Re: Horrible rattle is driving me crazy! I can't find [Re: 1BAD68] #740889
07/09/10 09:25 AM
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Did that do the trick?
After shimming the trunk lid and filler panel, I still have that rattle.




I replaced the shock bolts. While laying under the car and having the wife bounce up and down on the trunk it sure seemed to be coming from there. The bolts were tight, but since the shoulders were too long the top of the shock and the bolts themselves were just rattling around in the mounting holes when the suspension unloaded.

But - it rained yesterday and I live on a dirt road so I can't go for a test drive until the mud dries up. Maybe later today if the sun comes out for a while.

Re: Horrible rattle is driving me crazy! I can't find [Re: Gusteve] #740890
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if that hasn't done it, put the kid in the trunk with a flashlight and drive around and have him see if he can spot where it's coming from.

i wouldn't get caught doing that though, i'm sure that would land you in child services pretty quick

but hey, i don't know how many trunks i rode in as a kid, sneaking into the drive-in

Re: Horrible rattle is driving me crazy! I can't find [Re: Gusteve] #740891
07/09/10 02:18 PM
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Quote:

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Did that do the trick?
After shimming the trunk lid and filler panel, I still have that rattle.




I replaced the shock bolts. While laying under the car and having the wife bounce up and down on the trunk it sure seemed to be coming from there. The bolts were tight, but since the shoulders were too long the top of the shock and the bolts themselves were just rattling around in the mounting holes when the suspension unloaded.

But - it rained yesterday and I live on a dirt road so I can't go for a test drive until the mud dries up. Maybe later today if the sun comes out for a while.




My 67 B body did the same thing.. Seems as if the supporting body work ( that you attach the top of the shocks too) will squeeze together, with the right bolts, and hold them snuggly.. I had to retighten mine after install...

Re: Horrible rattle is driving me crazy! I can't find [Re: minivan] #740892
07/09/10 07:07 PM
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Just did a test drive. Upper shock bolts were it. Who'da thunk? I had just re-used the previous bolts when I replaced the shocks.

I can hear all sorts of new stuff now, but at least now ikt doesn't sound like parts are falling off when I drive down the road.

Thanks for everyone's help!

Re: Horrible rattle is driving me crazy! I can't find [Re: Gusteve] #740893
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Good job. Thanks for letting us know.

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