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Re: Hughes Engines comments re: Moparts Engine Mas
[Re: Quikshft]
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11/26/03 05:21 PM
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Tom me, the term chat room implies a bunch of screenagers hurling insults and bragging about their mythical 10 second ricers  How is the Hughes lifter bore broaching tool used? It appears to me to be a simple GO/NO-GO gauge...
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Re: Hughes Engines comments re: Moparts Engine Mas
[Re: JohnRR]
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11/26/03 06:22 PM
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Whew!
I can't believe I read the whole thing!
Unbelievable.....
JohnRR, thanks.....I was trying to remember Layson's.........this topic reminded me too of that other occasion where a business owner got a good taste of his feet by putting one in his mouth.
Take care all,
FishNamateur
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Re: Hughes Engines comments re: Moparts Engine Mas
[Re: JohnRR]
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11/26/03 09:24 PM
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to those that want to contribute , thank you for the offer . as before , i wouldn't want to be accused of soliciting others to fund an engine for my personal use , i do appreciate the offers though .
I have to disagree John,the amount of money you put into that motor with a moparts nameplate deserves some reimbursement, it would be more like paying off the debt that the EM contest put the team into ... im all for helping out ... as long as a comp cam (or scott brown grind) goes in that motor ... how about we start placing bets on how much more HP the motor makes with a non hughes grind? 
11.48 @ 120 with a 1.80 60' 318, stock 1.88 heads, stock 904, Pump Gas, 13 lbs of boost.
9.94 @ 134, 318 on pump gas, 14 lbs w/ Eddies, transbrake 727, 3600 lbs, 3.54 gear and 28's.
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Re: Hughes Engines comments re: Moparts Engine Masters
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11/26/03 09:30 PM
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does anyone know this guy?
Think I may have bought some engine parts from him.................... ONCE!!!
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Re: Hughes Engines comments re: Moparts Engine Mas
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11/26/03 09:47 PM
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I have to disagree John,the amount of money you put into that motor with a moparts nameplate deserves some reimbursement, it would be more like paying off the debt that the EM contest put the team into ... im all for helping out ... as long as a comp cam (or scott brown grind) goes in that motor ... how about we start placing bets on how much more HP the motor makes with a non hughes grind?
John would never tell you what he has in the motor, I been waiting for this reply for 2 days, he stuck he neck out, and his wallet !! and even though he would never really ask, he is out some serious bucks, with some funding Im sure he would rebuild and dyno the different set ups, this was a group project, even though he owns the motor. WE may have not won the EM challange, but with a little more ummph, we can post some good numbers, the fat lady has only begun to warm up. If anyone is interested in closure, then you can paypal me at dinofh1@comcast.net, and I will see that the money is used for its intended purpose.
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Re: Hughes Engines comments re: Moparts Engine Mas
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11/26/03 11:15 PM
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John would never tell you what he has in the motor, I been waiting for this reply for 2 days, he stuck he neck out, and his wallet !! and even though he would never really ask, he is out some serious bucks, with some funding Im sure he would rebuild and dyno the different set ups, this was a group project, even though he owns the motor. WE may have not won the EM challange, but with a little more ummph, we can post some good numbers, the fat lady has only begun to warm up. If anyone is interested in closure, then you can paypal me at dinofh1@comcast.net, and I will see that the money is used for its intended purpose.
i can tell you that i know for a fact that many thousands of dollars were spent from john's own pocket. there were some members that helped out with parts and donations and it was greatly appreciated by all involved. inspite of the help, it fell way way short of what was really needed. all of the team members donated their time and expertise and in most cases, even more than that. the power the engine made was right at the top of the list on our first competition pull during the preliminary round in michigan. the subsequent pulls fell off. of course, we did have that little snafu with the dyno itself during the second pull that sure didn't help our cause. that engine had great potential. i'd love to see it freshened up and have a chance to flog it a few more times, with a different cam of course.
monetary donations, if you so choose, should be made payable to john via check or M.Order. you can contact me via PM for more information, or john himself. please, no third party paypal accounts.
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Re: Hughes Engines comments re: Moparts Engine Masters
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11/26/03 11:28 PM
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Speaks volumes about the Hughes logic, the customer is always wrong unless I say he's right. I suppose he actually wants people to buy his product after bashing them (low life amateurs) what do they (customers) know.
They know to buy a 280H Comp cam (well at least I do) 
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Re: Hughes Engines comments re: Moparts Engine Mas
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11/26/03 11:39 PM
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4050 views, or people that have seen the injustice, 215 replies with better than 98.5 % in favor of boycotting hughes products. i'd say his website sure has had an impact on people. perhaps not the intended result from his view though.
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Re: Hughes Engines comments re: Moparts Engine Mas
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well then, stop lookin' so damn much, LOL. i'm guessing it's got a lot to do with people coming back to read whats new. that's okay though. i know that a lot of folks only check in a few times a month. eventually the word will spread. if that guy had an ounce of brains, that article would be off his site by now. somehow i bet it's still there, shooting that theory down the drain. 
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Re: Hughes Engines comments re: Moparts Engine Mas
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11/27/03 12:03 AM
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How many of those views are by people like me who come back and look everytime there is a new reply? 
bet I have looked 25 times myself.
Bout 10 times myself. The thing that gets me is, WHY DID HE FEEL THE NEED TO POST WHAT HE DID ON HIS WEBSITE???????? Like I said earlier, this a slap in the face to the very, very, very talented engine building people here! There is no other Mopar site in the world with the talent that is here and that is why I have been here for 5 years running. I just hope that none of you talented people are affended by his BS remarks.
Hell, give me a out-dated MP cam anyday, as long as it is already broke in! They will wipe in a heartbeat, but I love them!
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Re: Hughes Engines comments re: Moparts Engine Mas
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I was away for a couple of days and just found this post about an hour and a half ago. I got caught up in it and had to read through the whole thing. The one thing I have noticed is that the majority of the people that were involved(that I am aware of)with the EM project have been quite reserved in their responses. Most of their replies have not been slanderous in any way(which seems a bit surprising given the circumstances). I have had my questions answered by most of them before and always benefitted from their knowledge. I do think that these comments will not only hurt Hughes from a Moparts standpoint, but many members here are involved with other boards and I think this will do much more damage. I have never bought parts from Hughes, but I value the opinions of people here too much and will also join them in boycotting Hughes. JohnRR good luck with your motor, I would love to see it pull even bigger numbers. Tom P.S. Brian WO you must have a big grin from ear to ear reading these posts I have been around here for a few years and have read your previous posts about Hughes.
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Re: Hughes Engines comments re: Moparts Engine Mas
[Re: BradH]
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11/27/03 03:03 AM
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I have to agree, totally uncalled for. The way I see it-- mistakes, supplier quality issues, unforseen/missed tolerances, impossible deadlines,short finances, etc can and does happen to ANY business or personal/party entry into ANY type of contest...... To be a "fly" on his(Dave's) wall would probably be an eye opener  ...as he probably has in the past, suffered some of these same difficulties--aka, poor quality control, improper or outta spec components leaving his premises, etc.....due to something he or his staff didn't catch-prior to the product leaving it's door. THOSE kind of things happen from time to time....and one learns from those mistakes. To finger-point gains you nothing and loses you everything. Really....since he posted what he posted, knowing full well who & how many would see said statement on his website......he probably doesn't care to have anyone's money from here anyway.....I quess business is that "good". 
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