Re: Harland Sharp rockers and oil pressure?
[Re: Plumcrazyracing]
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You'll be more than fine.
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Re: Harland Sharp rockers and oil pressure?
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Im not familiar with the Indy kit, but a few years back I made my own restictor. I used the Y fitting in the back of the block and drilled and tapped it for a holley jet thread. Now keep in mind I used a #70 jet which is .070" this was feeding both heads through this one restrictor. This setup T'd off with oiling line too each valve cover. I made my own using 3/16 brake line, various inverted flare fittings and NPT fittings.. It worked great. It really doesnt take a bunch of oil in a drag racer application to keep everything happy. I never had a single problem. This was with a Jesel setup. I have seen people who has problems with burnt pushrods and scored valve tips etc. I dont know, this block I ran had very little oiling mods done if any at all. I ran the internal 3/8 pickup and a 4x4 truck pan running my home made oiling kit for the valve train.... Go figure?
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Re: Harland Sharp rockers and oil pressure?
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I tell ya what I am going to do. I am about ready to fire this new Hemi and I have the valve covers off now double checking everything. I plan to prime the engine up with the covers off and make sure oil is getting to everything, and has plenty of flow. This is the only way you will know for sure IMO. This Hemi stuff is new too me, but this way I know for sure that all the rocker shafts are oiling as they should before I fire it up. I dont see why this couldnt be done for a wedge like yours either. Now my cam has the journal grooved so Im not sure how it will oil, But I plan to bump the engine over slowly after a few seconds to see if there is any changes. This would be must with a wedge, unless the journals are grooved. I always felt even though someone said it would be ok, I still checked things out my self, cause frankly the money to fix any avoidable issues is just a waste, not to mention expensive.
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Re: Harland Sharp rockers and oil pressure?
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06/24/10 11:48 PM
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With the oil pressure you had, the only reason I could see for running the restrictors is to reduce flow to the top end, not to increase pressure. Your pressure was fine.
Damon
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Re: Harland Sharp rockers and oil pressure?
[Re: Plumcrazyracing]
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06/25/10 09:21 AM
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Just as a side note, of you have seat pressure of 275, you'll have may more than 550# of open pressure. Good luck with it all.
RIP Monte Smith
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Re: Harland Sharp rockers and oil pressure?
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06/25/10 11:10 AM
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Now were talking! Great info.
As far as oil pressure goes, shouldn't I have at least 10 psi per 1000 rpm? Since my rpm was exceeding the oil pressure by ratio, seems that i would be risking bearing damage, no?
I did prime the motor with the original indy oil fittings and yes, tons of oil. I just have not had a chance to prime it since i got back. I will do that though.
My original fittings seem to measure .120 orifice. Indy reports that the restrictors are .040. When i inquired about .060 I was told that I would be right back at the original fitting size! Go figure. I was hoping to find a few variables with their insert restrictors. I guess drilling and tapping the heads for Holley jets is the way to go.
Forgot to add, Melling HV, 1/2 internal pickup, 7 quart pan. No other oiling modifications.
Again, thank you for the info. I'll follow up with more info once i pull the covers and prime the motor again.
Steve
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Re: Harland Sharp rockers and oil pressure?
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06/25/10 11:52 AM
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The best and surest way is to still just pull the adapter fitting out of the heads, and yes, drill and tap for the Holley jets. Works extremely well. You can also simply use sets screws and drill the hole of your choice. Done both, both are foolproof.
RIP Monte Smith
Your work is a reflection of yourself, autograph it with quality.
WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.
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