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Re: Points or Elec. Ignition?
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I was definitely played when I bought the car. He said it had new brakes, rebuilt engine, a new interior with one seat needing recovering. All it had a was a very good interior. The brakes look like they could be original and the engine looks like a "new" set of heads and paint. The owner conveniently can't find the receipts. The car is very solid however.
No doubt the car is solid, but if it is just a new set of heads (if new) on a seasoned block with old rings and a bigger cam, then cylinder pressure may change and the rings may not be happy right now; or the heads. What is the oil pressure when hot at idle and cruise?
Also, is the smoke that you notice out of the tailpipes and is it blue? Does it only do it on startup, or does it last for a few moments. Some detail on that could be useful, or post a recording of the smoke. Are there any noises coming from the engine (ie knocks or clicks)?
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Re: Points or Elec. Ignition?
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Ok, I just took a video of start-up. After I started it, I took it off fast-idle, revved it, then when it went back down to idle it stalled. The car usually smokes more on start-up.  Edit-Here is another taken 10 seconds after start-up. There was blue smoke in the sun. Then as fast idle is automatically taken off, it stalls. A second or two before it stalled, the smoke went away. So that's about 20 seconds of smoke. 
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Re: Points or Elec. Ignition?
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Hmmm, definately seems like bad valve seals or valve guides at the least. Did you see any hardened plastic remnants of the valve seals under the valve covers, or can you see the seals down the valve springs.
The problems is definately internal; either heads or rings. Definately not rebuilt, or at least a very poor one.
Another question is do you have proper ventilation, such a functional breather on one valve cover and a pcv on the other? Also, is there baffle plates underneath each of those on the underside of each valve cover?
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More Engine Problems
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I could not see any remnants. I just removed the driver side cover and didn't see anything. I have a breather and a PCV, but the PCV may be bad so I disconnected the hose and plugged it. The valve covers do have the baffles.I tried looking for the seals, but it looks like it has an inner and an outer valve spring and I can't even see the valve stem.
I called the auto parts store and they wanted $46 for a compression tester, which seems high to me. So I will try to bum one off somebody.
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Re: More Engine Problems
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You need to have your PCV connected and working. It's a $2.00 part, get a new one, or wash out your old one with brake cleaner. You should hear the little ball inside rattle if you shake it. If not, it's stuck and should be cleaned. If you do, then hook it back up as it should be. You need to have this working, it's very essential. Here is what it does- while your engine operates, the oil in there gets hot and gives off vapors, vapors that form pressure. By bleeding that vapor pressure out of the engine internals, your engine will run as it was engineered to do. If that pressure builds up, it strains everything and you can blow seals and gaskets, and sometimes, much worse. The PCV system was engineered to burn these vapors and pressures, as opposed to letting them vent into the atmosphere (as was normal from about 1964 and earlier). OK, back to your issues now! 
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Re: More Engine Problems
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You need to have your PCV connected and working. It's a $2.00 part, get a new one, or wash out your old one with brake cleaner. You should hear the little ball inside rattle if you shake it. If not, it's stuck and should be cleaned. If you do, then hook it back up as it should be. You need to have this working, it's very essential.
Here is what it does- while your engine operates, the oil in there gets hot and gives off vapors, vapors that form pressure. By bleeding that vapor pressure out of the engine internals, your engine will run as it was engineered to do. If that pressure builds up, it strains everything and you can blow seals and gaskets, and sometimes, much worse.
The PCV system was engineered to burn these vapors and pressures, as opposed to letting them vent into the atmosphere (as was normal from about 1964 and earlier).
OK, back to your issues now!
This is absolutely correct. It is imperative to have this component. Get a good one and make sure it is working properly.
-Justin
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Re: More Engine Problems
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Give it a shake. If you hear the ball rattle, you're golden! If not, it's clogged (and defective). 3 second test! 
Lol...exactly. Seems small, but this thing does wonders when it is functional. If it ran well with it plugged, check the hose running to the carb for cracks as well (possibly a vacuum leak).
-Justin
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Re: More Engine Problems
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wow, this is getting ridiculous already. TIME TO TEAR INTO THE ENGINE. poppin through the exhaust, oil on the plugs,
stalls, dies, takin it to 5000+rpm on a sick engine. TOLD YAH before, you're chasin your tail. park it, and fix it right.
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Re: More Engine Problems
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I just took another test drive and all the car wants to do is die. The engine practically dies then I give it a touch of gas and it comes back to life in gear then when I let off the throttle it tries to die. Also, when I get on it the car really stumbles like somebody was playing with the ignition switch.
Now is the time that I would say hold backon driving it for now until the problem is solved. If it is a valve issue, you do not want to risk dropping one of them, especially with all of the backifiring going on.
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Re: More Engine Problems
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wow, this is getting ridiculous already. TIME TO TEAR INTO THE ENGINE. poppin through the exhaust, oil on the plugs,
stalls, dies, takin it to 5000+rpm on a sick engine. TOLD YAH before, you're chasin your tail. park it, and fix it right.
In a kind sense, I would agree, but you can't fix anything until you diagnose. Just don't push it too hard. We had to get a little furthur though. At the very least, it looks like a valve job at best and possibly rings. It is time to find a shop to let them dissect it.
It is not completely ridiculous. He is young and inexperienced and trying to fix the damn thing, so give him a break. Remember, this will serve as good education to him in the future and he will get better. Constructive criticism is key.
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Re: More Engine Problems
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Dr. Phill in the house I see. anyways,
the way i see it.. he's getting to many different responces here
to be of any help, hence chasing his tail. IF he really wants to learn. get a good rebuild book, take your time
and if your stumped.. ask here.
"DO OR DO NOT... THERE IS NO TRY!"~ yoda (wise green thing)
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Re: More Engine Problems
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Dr. Phill in the house I see. anyways,
the way i see it.. he's getting to many different responces here
to be of any help, hence chasing his tail. IF he really wants to learn. get a good rebuild book, take your time
and if your stumped.. ask here.
"DO OR DO NOT... THERE IS NO TRY!"~ yoda (wise green thing)
No Dr. Phil here; I cannot stand that hypocrit. Lmao. Cmon', if I wasn't level headed, I may have been insulted by that comment, but afterall, this is just a forum. Just trying to speak with a little reason and help him out,sir.  I do agree with now being the time to take the thing to a REPUTABLE shop, since we have exhausted everything trying to help him out.
To the OP: Taking it to the shop is a good move. Good luck; it will soon be back on the road and healthy. Keep us updated. At the very least here, you learned a lot about the world of automotive troubleshooting.  
Last edited by MoparJ; 06/19/08 05:39 PM.
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Re: More Engine Problems
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Dr. Phill in the house I see. anyways,
the way i see it.. he's getting to many different responces here
to be of any help, hence chasing his tail. IF he really wants to learn. get a good rebuild book, take your time
and if your stumped.. ask here.
"DO OR DO NOT... THERE IS NO TRY!"~ yoda (wise green thing)
No Dr. Phil here; I cannot stand that hypocrit. Lmao. Cmon', if I wasn't level headed, I may have been insulted by that comment, but afterall, this is just a forum. Just trying to speak with a little reason and help him out,sir. I do agree with now being the time to take the thing to a REPUTABLE shop, since we have exhausted everything trying to help him out.
don't mis-interpret my sanctimonious, obtuse responces.. embrace them.
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good move bordin34
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