Re: how hard is it to rebuild front calipers?
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06/17/10 11:18 PM
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If its that badly rusted in place, you are probably better off either sending it out someplace and let a pro handle it and have it sleeved due to the rust pitting or check out rockauto.com and see what they have in stock.
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Re: how hard is it to rebuild front calipers?
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06/17/10 11:23 PM
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Be careful of the compressed air trick if there is any resistance the piston will build up pressure and when it does blow it will be loud and possibly ugly. DAMHIK If you can not get the piston out easily with compressed air I suggest you use the hydraulic pressure from the brake pedal. If it still will not move it could be cocked in the bore. Remove all the excess rubber boot you can and look at the piston. If it is cocked use a large C clamp on the high side to push that side back in and try again. Some are easy and some are a real pain. Good luck.
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Re: how hard is it to rebuild front calipers?
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06/17/10 11:28 PM
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I tried useing the brake pedal to pop the piston out but I think its rusted in. any other ideas?
This would tell me its beyond rebuilding but I'm wrong all the time so this could be another. IMHO, rebuilding requires more than simply honing. It also requires new o-rings. If they are so rusted the won't come out of the bores even under the hydraulic pressure of the brake pedal, the likely won't be able to be cleaned up sufficiently from honing. Anymore than that and you'll probably need pistons too. Think about your engine cylinders... I believe that is one reason why most parts houses quit offering rebuild kits (besides money of course)
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Re: how hard is it to rebuild front calipers?
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I have had them get stuck and sprayed them with pb blaster and let them sit and give them some tap with a hammer. Last one wouldn't bunch then I let it go soaking and freed it up and it popped right out with some air at very low pressure.
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Re: how hard is it to rebuild front calipers?
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Here's how you get caliper pistons out when they won't pop out with compressed air, or by the brake pedal. Pump them out hydraulicly with grease. Here's how you do it. Get a bolt the thread size that's used to attach the brake hose to the caliper. Something not very long, just enough to thread into the caliper. Get a grease fitting, something thats used on the ball joints tie rod ends, things like that. Drill through the length of the bolt with whatever tap drill size the threads on the grease fitting are. Tap the drilled hole in the bolt to accept the grease fitting. Or even just open the bleeder screw and pump grease through that, while having a bolt in the brake hose location to block that off. Go get your grease gun, and hook it up to the adapter that you just made. Pump away. Keep pumping grease into the caliper until the piston comes out. Put a rag over everything before the piston pops out, or your gonna have grease all over the place. You will be surprised how much hydraulic pressure that method will build up to get stuck pistons out. I have been using that trick for years in the rebuilding dozens of the 4 piston Kelsey Hayes calipers that are used on the 65-72 A body cars. Give it a try, you have nothing to loose.
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Re: how hard is it to rebuild front calipers?
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I've used heat before to loosen up rust. Calipers have to be really badly pitted to not be rebuildable because the o-ring seals against the piston, not the caliper bore. On bad calipers I like to clean them and then glass bead them (actually I do that to almost every one I do).
and I even recently helped a guy put a caliper back together that he had pushed out with the pedal. Now that you pointed out the o-ring location I can picture it. Been a while since I had one apart and now I will go hide my face in embarrassment!
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Re: how hard is it to rebuild front calipers?
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no parts houses in town has front calipers for my 72 charger so I thought i would rebuild them, any special tools that i need? also, how would you get the piston out?
Call me crazy, but the days of rebuilding hydraulic components is long gone.
I don't know how shipping to Alaska would be, and returning cores for credit might be a hassle, but surf for awhile and maybe you'll find something. If there's a chain store near you you can generally return the cores and save on return shipping.
RockAuto shows listings (pasted below) and probably other places too.
NASTRA Part # 114065 {Semi-Loaded; Reman} Front Right price, core, total cost $15.53 $25.00 $40.53 A-1 CARDONE Part # 184065 {[Caliper w/Installation Hardware] Reman.} Front Right; OE Metal Piston $23.79 $20.00 $43.79 A-1 CARDONE Part # 184066 {[Caliper w/Installation Hardware] Reman.} Front Left; OE Metal Piston $23.79 $20.00 $43.79 RAYBESTOS Part # FRC4065 {Professional Grade; Friction Ready - Pads Not Included, Remanufactured; Bore Size=2.75" Inlet Thread=7/16X20 Bleeder Thread=3/8X24 #FrontLeft, FrontLeftLate, FrontLeftPinType} Front; Left $26.79 $30.00 $56.79 RAYBESTOS Part # FRC4066 {Professional Grade; Friction Ready - Pads Not Included, Remanufactured; Bore Size=2.75" Inlet Thread=7/16X20 Bleeder Thread=3/8X24 #FrontRight, FrontRightLate, FrontRightPinType} Front; Right (Only 4 Remaining) $26.79 $30.00 $56.79 RAYBESTOS Part # RC4066 {Professional Grade; Loaded - Pads Included, Remanufactured; Bore Size=2.75" Inlet Thread=7/16X20 Bleeder Thread=3/8X24 #FrontRightLateOrgani, FrontRightOrganic, FrontRightPinTypeOrg} Front; Right; Organic $38.79 $30.00 $68.79 RAYBESTOS Part # RC4065 {Professional Grade; Loaded - Pads Included, Remanufactured; Bore Size=2.75" Inlet Thread=7/16X20 Bleeder Thread=3/8X24 #FrontLeftLateOrganic, FrontLeftOrganic, FrontLeftPinTypeOrga} Front; Left; Organic (Only 2 Remaining) $38.79 $30.00 $68.79
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driver doorpanel, 65 Sport Fury, prefer black, needs to be 7-8 on 10 scale, might buy set
16" x 6" Dodge truck wheel(s), from early 70s?, takes 9" dogdish - need for a research job so cheaper is better.
69-73 C-body caliper brackets and/or splashields
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