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ICCA OE Judging Available @ Carlisle July 9-11th 2010 #725717
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Hi Everyone, I just wanted to announce that at this years Carlisle, I will be donating half my tent space to the ICCA in order to provide OE certification and inspection services on site this year.

If anyone has any interest in signing up, please contact Dave Wise at www.iccahome.org

Thanks
Mike


Michael L. Mancini
American Muscle Car Restorations, Inc.
65 Foliage Drive
N. Kingstown, RI

Premium Quality Restoration Services for Hi-Performance & Classic Automobiles. OE Specialists.

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Re: ICCA OE Judging Available @ Carlisle July 9-11th 2010 [Re: Mike Mancini] #725718
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Hey Mike - you mean real, actual CC production based judging instead of the fantasy shop judging you get @ Carlisle now?

Re: ICCA OE Judging Available @ Carlisle July 9-11th 20 [Re: 70RT] #725719
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Quote:

Hey Mike - you mean real, actual CC production based judging instead of the fantasy shop judging you get @ Carlisle now?




It's not ICCA judging but it's not billed as such. I know they have good guys making a sincere effort to judge the SME cars. It's a hot, thankless job. No judging is going to be perfect or suit everybody but I hate to see a small-minded comment like yours. Go ahead and get your car ICCA judged but don't knock Carlisle's efforts to provide a good service for guys who want their cars judged when nobody else stepped up.

Re: ICCA OE Judging Available @ Carlisle July 9-11th 20 [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #725720
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Do they have a class for restored cars that do not have the matching numbers engine?

Re: ICCA OE Judging Available @ Carlisle July 9-11th 20 [Re: NYAL23] #725721
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RoadRunnerJD the fact is a couple of folks have stepped up and then were shown the door. Roger Gibson created the CSE (Carlisle Standard of Excellence) judging concept and Dave Wise tried to introduce ICCA judging several years ago. Please do a little research before you comment. No part of my previous thread was directed toward any single judge. Just the idea that there is a "stock" or factory OEM finish standard that these cars are judged against that leaves much room for improvement. Just ask Dave Walden ...

Re: ICCA OE Judging Available @ Carlisle July 9-11th 20 [Re: 70RT] #725722
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I have a pretty good understanding of things. I was on Rogers' Chrysler Standard of Originality (CSO) crew. I think it was more like Roger quit because he wasn't satisfied with his arrangement with Carlisle Productions. I don't know if you had a bad experience or are just making a gratuitous statement? I didn't like what you implied because I've been helping with SME for years and I see a serious group of experienced guys and mostly satisfied customers. I know there is a proper effort made given the time allowed. It is not the same as CSO or ICCA and the participants know it. It's not the idea of ICCA judging, it's just the tone of your comment. We are all in it to enjoy and appreciate the cars. Carlisle has gone a long way to making the event as first class as possible. I'm willing to leave it at that.

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