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This is especially for Duster Dave.

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To add a little sound to the pics go to Hemi Fred's website: Hemi Fred. My buddy and I convinced Roy Hill to duct tape a tape recorder inside his colt at Capitol Raceway in the late 70's/early 80's (can't remember exact date). Love that Southern accent. Enjoy.



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Nice pics, thanks Stewart!

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FRED.....How long have you had your duster and where/how did you find it???

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The Colt Vs My Duster long before I owned it

http://www.prostockhemi.com/gallery/movies/SM_Duster_And_Colt_Run1.wmv




Hi Fred

Hey! I know who made those movies!! Thanks for showing them again!
Did not realize that you did not own your Duster back then... When did you buy it?
I forgot what a hot day that was!

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Here's another one...

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I knew it was confirmed as being one of Ronnie's car, but I wasn't aware that the chasis was totally redone on the Colt.... I guess stuff like that happens as the cars go from racers to racers,and the NHRA changes saftey standards. Too bad someone didn't document how all the changes made.

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FRED.....How long have you had your duster and where/how did you find it???




November 1997. it was advertised in the AUTO TRADER
it was at aN Auto Museum SHADES OF THE PAST in NC
saw the ad one night and was there the next day to take it home




Thats a pretty amazing story!!! Im sure you would NEVER sell it either!!!! I couldnt even amagine what it cost back then.

Good for you for keeping the SOX and MARTIN name alive!!!

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YOU GUYS ARE BRINGING TEARS TO MY EYES THIS MORNING.THIS COLT WAS BY FAR MY FAVORITE.LAST ONE OF HIS CARS I DROVE.AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT,IT WAS THE SMOOTHEST AND EASIEST TO DRIVE.MUCH BETTER THAN THE FIRST COLTS.THANKS FOR THE MEMORIES!DAVID

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David, these you should appreciate

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THANKS STEWART.VERY RARE PICS.THE GOOD OLE DAYS.DAVID

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Stewart, did you change the rear spoiler from the two split spoilers to the one long one? That other Colt you sent out the other day had the two small spoilers. Was it an S&M Colt too? Didn't Logghe build those, or was that another Colt? I like the first Colts better than the later ones.


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Do I detect a 4 speed this photo??????

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My Colt (Sox&Martin Logghe Car) was originally built with a 4 speed - but very quickly went to a Lenco (picture9)- as for the spoiler, it was always a long across trunk type

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Another one a friend of mine in Ohio owned in the 80's. Originally a Hemi/Lenco but had a Max Wedge/727 when this pic was taken, about 1987. I think it was one of the Rod Shop cars?

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Was that picture taken at MCIR in Larue Ohio? I know the family that owns that duster. They still have it, just sitting though. Been a long time since it went down the 1/4.

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The red Colt from Ohio, looks like it might have been this Colt

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Another one a friend of mine in Ohio owned in the 80's. Originally a Hemi/Lenco but had a Max Wedge/727 when this pic was taken, about 1987. I think it was one of the Rod Shop cars?





I was Riffles Colt, then Paul Marcum owned it then Rod Gartin. After Rod sold it I'm not sure where it went. I have a picture of the car when Rod owned it on my wall.

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Are we talking about 2 different Rod Shop Colts ?

One of them was a sb car, and the other, I believe was a Hemi -- What I see as different is the hood scoops - one car seems to have the double layer scoop of as in the Roger Denny car, and the other a standard scoop
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Chris, not many people realize how significant that Colt in Virginia really is!!! If I had a boatload of $$$ - that Colt would be mine

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Are we talking about 2 different Rod Shop Colts ?

One of them was a sb car, and the other, I believe was a Hemi -- What I see as different is the hood scoops - one car seems to have the double layer scoop of as in the Roger Denny car, and the other a standard scoop
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Stewart,

The one that 300by500 is talking about is the one Rod Gartin use to own. The picture is identical except the picture I have doesn't have the Dodge decal on the door. But the hood scoop decals and the black stripe is exactly the same, along with the maroon headlights. According to Rod that car was Riffels car. He and Paul Marcum (who bought the car off the Rod Shop) both live in the Columbus area.
Is the black car in Va. The same car? If not does anyone know where that car went?

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Well, it's already painted black. That would save you a few bucks. I thought you had $$$$, not like me checking the ground for that no one would pick up. When I was a kid I'd do well finding coins in pay phones. Hard to find those these days.


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Jim, no comments from Texas please :-)

The Black Colt in Virgina, would have been a Missile car. It is referred to. as the D5 Colt. It is the real deal, as the guys in that picture can attest to - In case you do not reconize them, that is Tom Hoover and Dick Oldfield.

WHAT A CAR !!!!

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Can I respond when I get down to St. Pete in a month or so?

I recognized Tom and Dick (they need a Harry to finish out the group) when you sent me that photo last month. A Semi-Missile, eh? Too bad they pulled the plug on it. Was it after the wire car or before?


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The First Sox and Martin Logghe Colt.

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Jim, I think it was in the same time period as the Wire Car.

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Jim, would these guys qualify as "Hairry" ??

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Was that picture taken at MCIR in Larue Ohio? I know the family that owns that duster. They still have it, just sitting though. Been a long time since it went down the 1/4.




Yep. It was taken at Marion County back in the 1980's.

If I remember correctly, it was taken on the day when Jeg Coughlin Jr. was racing their pit-bike in the motorcycle class. He dialed it in at 25 seconds flat, and he would get to the finish line in time to stop at the lights, pick up the front wheel of the pit bike, and drop in into the lights at just the right time to win. The next week they had a new rule where there was a minimum E.T. for the motorcycle class! LOL!

Sucks that the "Mounts Mopar" is just sitting around...

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Are we talking about 2 different Rod Shop Colts ?

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Stewart,

The one that 300by500 is talking about is the one Rod Gartin use to own. The picture is identical except the picture I have doesn't have the Dodge decal on the door. But the hood scoop decals and the black stripe is exactly the same, along with the maroon headlights. According to Rod that car was Riffels car. He and Paul Marcum (who bought the car off the Rod Shop) both live in the Columbus area.
Is the black car in Va. The same car? If not does anyone know where that car went?




You're right, it's the car Rod Gartin later owned. I'd like to know where it is, too!

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You're right, it's the car Rod Gartin later owned. I'd like to know where it is, too!


Sitting in Calif. -- Reed in Neb.

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How small a world is it ? This helmet was done 37 years ago, by Greg of Akron - check out the pictures of the car area and this helmet. A very GOOD, KIND FRIEND sent the helme to me and I got it today

Thank you DEAN C

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Helmet today

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Good afternoon,

I have a photo of my Black Colt, doing a burnout. I do not remember where it came from but on the bottom of the photo is this --- "WADE-0-LDIES"

Is Wade a member here, or does anyone know how to get in touch with him.
Thanks
Stewart

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I think this used to be a Romeo Palimedes car. Now it is going to be a Sox and Martin clone.

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Good afternoon, I have a photo of my Black Colt, doing a burnout. I do not remember where it came from but on the bottom of the photo is this --- "WADE-0-LDIES" Is Wade a member here, or does anyone know how to get in touch with him.
Thanks Stewart




Stewart, I've seen him advertise some old photo's for sale on ebay in the past, but here are some from his personal photo album: WADE-O-LDIES.

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Here's a few more Pro-Stock Colt photo's, and does anyone know if the "Billy the Kid" and the "Rod Shop" Colts are still around, because I've always liked those ones!














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Another one a friend of mine in Ohio owned in the 80's. Originally a Hemi/Lenco but had a Max Wedge/727 when this pic was taken, about 1987. I think it was one of the Rod Shop cars?





I was Riffles Colt, then Paul Marcum owned it then Rod Gartin. After Rod sold it I'm not sure where it went. I have a picture of the car when Rod owned it on my wall.






Rod owned it only briefly from what I remember. The last I heard it's still in Columbus but a chevy guy owns it. I tried to get it off him 3 years ago but gave up. I passed the information on to Reed but he didn't have any luck either from what he told me.

Fred

oh yeah...love the picture of "MOUNTS MOPAR" too. I was wondering what happened to it.

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That Mini Hemi Colt is Stewart's Colt. Any more info on that owner and history?


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"That Mini Hemi Colt is Stewart's Colt. Any more info on that owner and history?"

Leroy Roder outa Wisc. - Stewart's Colt went thru a number of people before I finally traced it down - it's in VA. now getting some work done to it and chassis is getting certified - I plan on making some short "squirts" with it when I get it done - here's a shot of the chassis right after we took the body off - Dave Christie & Stewart are helping with the restoration - MANY THANKS to both of 'em ! -- Reed in Neb.

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Congrats on hunting down Stewart's colt. Bet he's like a kid in a candy store finally knowing its whereabouts!!



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I think this used to be a Romeo Palimedes car. Now it is going to be a Sox and Martin clone.




With so many S&M clones already out there, why not find out more about the history of the car and restore it?

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Thanks Bill, I've had the car for about 2 1/2 yrs now. Just this last year were we able to start on it. I traced it thru EVERY owner and finally found it up in them mountains of WV. Very people up to now even knew I had it. Very proud to have saved another piece of our racing heritage and even happier to have Dave Christie and Stewart P.'s help. Thru various friends, etc - have found some of the original parts off the car including -Lakewood/lenco bellhousing, Lenco shifter assy. (and possibly one of the Lenco's), complete Magnesium Dana, Dual-plug valve covers and inline twin-plug Dual-dist. and other misc. parts that diappeared off it over it's lifetime. It's a slow and costly project but well worth it. I believe it's the only known surviving Logghe-chassis'ed Colt left.
Many Thanks,
Reed in Neb.

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Here's some more pic's of Colts in this photo album.

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Who had the Colt that was on the cover of Hot Rod or Car Craft circa 1971? All I can recall it was black with blue trim and it was one of the first Hemi Colts or might have been the first.

Zorian must have taken a liking to Colts after Stewart. They must be addictive.


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The Colts are an addition! For sure.

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Who had the Colt that was on the cover of Hot Rod or Car Craft circa 1971?

Jim Roath -- Reed in Neb.

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a picture I have not seen before - sent to me, PRO Race 1974 - NY National Raceway

anyone got any more ??

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Hay SP ....who is that with Ted ?

BTW ....what is the water-temp out in the Gulf ?

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Ted ? That is Jim Ward in the red shirt --- Doc, you finally in Florida ?

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Stewart, the red Rod Shop Colt and the Desantis/Crider Colt tried the small blocks, were these early W-2 heads or were they using the Trans Am heads?

The Rod Shop Colt wagon with the Westlake small block was neat too.

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That I do not know, maybe Koffel can answer that question - I am a bigot - if the spark plug is not in the middle of the valve cover -- well, best left unsaid :-)

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Gotta love it! I'd say that Chevelle is about to have something handed to it...a spankin!



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Hey, I can answer that! The Rod Shop Colt was used in 1974, with Jim Thompson driving, to test the prototype W2 heads. This program was parallel to Don Carlton's testing in the "yellow" car. The Colt ran a best of 9.12, as I recall, at about 100 lbs under the NHRA Pro Stock weight. There was alot more potential in the heads, but they were breaking blocks as the HP went up. The results of the Carlton and Rod Shop testing is what got Chrysler (slowly) started on developing the 340 race block which finally showed up about the time Glidden moved over to Mopar and ran the successful Arrow.

As for Desantis and Crider, they were trying to make a go of it with T/A type heads. As I recall, they only ran the car for a partial year, breaking alot of parts and finally selling the car to Roy Hill who put a Hemi in and did real well in IHRA Pro Stock in 1976 with it. He also ran his Duster in NHRA Pro Stock that same year.

Hope that helps!

Mark

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The red Rod Shop Colt was only a small block in 1974 and *maybe* early 1975 until the W2 small block testing was stopped 'til a better engine block could be made (took 3+ years!). Then, it was converted to a Hemi with Gene Dunlop (and occasionally Riffle) driving as a B/A. When Dunlop damaged it in 1976, the Rod Shop bought the black Colt from Roger Denney to meet their match race obligations and Riffle turned in his Dart Sport to drive this Colt. The red Colt was also repaired and for a short time the Rod Shop was running 2 in-house program Colts (Riffle/black and Dunlop/red) and a third in Carlton's outside (gold car) program.

Hope that helps.

BTW, I sold the Colt back to the Rod Shop that your friend later bought and raced. Like David Sox said earlier, the Hardy-build Colts were very nice handling.

Mark

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I thought Hill had a Plymouth Arrow? I don't remember any Colt he had. I sort of remember an article in HR or Carmaro Craft about some W2 prototype heads that were welded up. Probably Mullins developed but I don't remember much about the article.


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I thought Hill had a Plymouth Arrow? I don't remember any Colt he had. I sort of remember an article in HR or Carmaro Craft about some W2 prototype heads that were welded up. Probably Mullins developed but I don't remember much about the article.




I posted a photo Roy Hill's Colt earlier but you must have missed it, here it is again.



Also curious about any updates on any other small block & Hemi Colt's that other people are currently working on.


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Here are a couple I found in my pictures from Columbus at the Springnationals 1974.


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