Posted By: StewartP
Hemi Colts again - 06/04/10 12:40 AM
This is especially for Duster Dave.
StewartP
StewartP
Hemi Colts again
Posted By: Dads426
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/04/10 12:46 AM
To add a little sound to the pics go to Hemi Fred's website: Hemi Fred. My buddy and I convinced Roy Hill to duct tape a tape recorder inside his colt at Capitol Raceway in the late 70's/early 80's (can't remember exact date). Love that Southern accent. Enjoy.
Posted By: HEMIDARTS
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/04/10 12:54 AM
Nice pics, thanks Stewart! 
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Posted By: HEMIDARTS
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/04/10 01:41 AM
sweet!! 
Posted By: Anonymous
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Posted By: MIKES_DUSTER
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/04/10 02:22 AM
FRED.....How long have you had your duster and where/how did you find it???
Posted By: Florida_70Bee
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/04/10 02:53 AM
Quote:
The Colt Vs My Duster long before I owned it
http://www.prostockhemi.com/gallery/movies/SM_Duster_And_Colt_Run1.wmv
Hi Fred
Hey! I know who made those movies!!
Thanks for showing them again!Did not realize that you did not own your Duster back then... When did you buy it?
I forgot what a hot day that was!
Posted By: Anonymous
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Posted By: donscuda
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/04/10 12:50 PM
Here's another one...
Posted By: donscuda
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/04/10 12:53 PM
one more... (sorry, the engine's long gone)
Posted By: Anonymous
Post deleted by Defbob - 06/04/10 01:17 PM
Posted By: donscuda
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/04/10 01:27 PM
I knew it was confirmed as being one of Ronnie's car, but I wasn't aware that the chasis was totally redone on the Colt.... I guess stuff like that happens as the cars go from racers to racers,and the NHRA changes saftey standards. Too bad someone didn't document how all the changes made.
Posted By: MIKES_DUSTER
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/04/10 01:39 PM
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FRED.....How long have you had your duster and where/how did you find it???
November 1997. it was advertised in the AUTO TRADER
it was at aN Auto Museum SHADES OF THE PAST in NC
saw the ad one night and was there the next day to take it home
Thats a pretty amazing story!!! Im sure you would NEVER sell it either!!!! I couldnt even amagine what it cost back then.
Good for you for keeping the SOX and MARTIN name alive!!!
Posted By: LIL'BROTHER
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/04/10 02:20 PM
YOU GUYS ARE BRINGING TEARS TO MY EYES THIS MORNING.THIS COLT WAS BY FAR MY FAVORITE.LAST ONE OF HIS CARS I DROVE.AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT,IT WAS THE SMOOTHEST AND EASIEST TO DRIVE.MUCH BETTER THAN THE FIRST COLTS.THANKS FOR THE MEMORIES!DAVID
Posted By: StewartP
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/04/10 02:58 PM
David, these you should appreciate
StewartP
StewartP
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Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/04/10 02:58 PM
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Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/04/10 03:00 PM
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Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/04/10 03:02 PM
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Posted By: LIL'BROTHER
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/04/10 03:22 PM
THANKS STEWART.VERY RARE PICS.THE GOOD OLE DAYS.DAVID
Posted By: turbocolt2.4L
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/04/10 11:16 PM
did you say Hemi or Half a Hemi........ LOL
Posted By: mr_340
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/04/10 11:33 PM
Stewart, did you change the rear spoiler from the two split spoilers to the one long one? That other Colt you sent out the other day had the two small spoilers. Was it an S&M Colt too? Didn't Logghe build those, or was that another Colt? I like the first Colts better than the later ones.
Posted By: Frito
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/05/10 12:15 AM
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Do I detect a 4 speed this photo??????
Posted By: StewartP
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/05/10 02:10 AM
My Colt (Sox&Martin Logghe Car) was originally built with a 4 speed - but very quickly went to a Lenco (picture9)- as for the spoiler, it was always a long across trunk type
Posted By: 300by500
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/05/10 02:44 AM
Another one a friend of mine in Ohio owned in the 80's. Originally a Hemi/Lenco but had a Max Wedge/727 when this pic was taken, about 1987. I think it was one of the Rod Shop cars?
Posted By: Bigbeep
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/06/10 06:47 AM
Was that picture taken at MCIR in Larue Ohio? I know the family that owns that duster. They still have it, just sitting though. Been a long time since it went down the 1/4.
Posted By: StewartP
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/06/10 11:57 AM
The red Colt from Ohio, looks like it might have been this Colt
Posted By: KD800X
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/06/10 02:55 PM
Quote:
Another one a friend of mine in Ohio owned in the 80's. Originally a Hemi/Lenco but had a Max Wedge/727 when this pic was taken, about 1987. I think it was one of the Rod Shop cars?
I was Riffles Colt, then Paul Marcum owned it then Rod Gartin. After Rod sold it I'm not sure where it went. I have a picture of the car when Rod owned it on my wall.
Posted By: StewartP
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/06/10 04:27 PM
Are we talking about 2 different Rod Shop Colts ?
One of them was a sb car, and the other, I believe was a Hemi -- What I see as different is the hood scoops - one car seems to have the double layer scoop of as in the Roger Denny car, and the other a standard scoop
Pictures for your inspection
StewartP
One of them was a sb car, and the other, I believe was a Hemi -- What I see as different is the hood scoops - one car seems to have the double layer scoop of as in the Roger Denny car, and the other a standard scoop
Pictures for your inspection
StewartP
Posted By: StewartP
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/06/10 04:28 PM
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Posted By: StewartP
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/06/10 04:31 PM
Small block Colt
Posted By: BEEQUIK
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/06/10 04:37 PM
Here's one still hanging around in Roanoke,va...
Posted By: BEEQUIK
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/06/10 04:39 PM
another...
Posted By: StewartP
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/06/10 04:54 PM
Chris, not many people realize how significant that Colt in Virginia really is!!! If I had a boatload of $$$ - that Colt would be mine
StewartP
StewartP
Posted By: KD800X
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/06/10 05:07 PM
Quote:
Are we talking about 2 different Rod Shop Colts ?
One of them was a sb car, and the other, I believe was a Hemi -- What I see as different is the hood scoops - one car seems to have the double layer scoop of as in the Roger Denny car, and the other a standard scoop
Pictures for your inspection
StewartP
Stewart,
The one that 300by500 is talking about is the one Rod Gartin use to own. The picture is identical except the picture I have doesn't have the Dodge decal on the door. But the hood scoop decals and the black stripe is exactly the same, along with the maroon headlights. According to Rod that car was Riffels car. He and Paul Marcum (who bought the car off the Rod Shop) both live in the Columbus area.
Is the black car in Va. The same car? If not does anyone know where that car went?
Posted By: mr_340
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/06/10 05:09 PM
Well, it's already painted black. That would save you a few bucks. I thought you had $$$$, not like me checking the ground for 
that no one would pick up. When I was a kid I'd do well finding coins in pay phones. Hard to find those these days.
that no one would pick up. When I was a kid I'd do well finding coins in pay phones. Hard to find those these days.
Posted By: StewartP
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/06/10 05:19 PM
Jim, no comments from Texas please :-)
The Black Colt in Virgina, would have been a Missile car. It is referred to. as the D5 Colt. It is the real deal, as the guys in that picture can attest to - In case you do not reconize them, that is Tom Hoover and Dick Oldfield.
WHAT A CAR !!!!
The Black Colt in Virgina, would have been a Missile car. It is referred to. as the D5 Colt. It is the real deal, as the guys in that picture can attest to - In case you do not reconize them, that is Tom Hoover and Dick Oldfield.
WHAT A CAR !!!!
Posted By: mr_340
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/06/10 05:41 PM
Quote:
Jim, no comments from Texas please :-)
Can I respond when I get down to St. Pete in a month or so? 
I recognized Tom and Dick (they need a Harry to finish out the group) when you sent me that photo last month. A Semi-Missile, eh? Too bad they pulled the plug on it. Was it after the wire car or before?
Posted By: B1KILLER
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/06/10 05:50 PM
Posted By: StewartP
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/06/10 06:34 PM
The First Sox and Martin Logghe Colt.
Posted By: StewartP
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/06/10 06:36 PM
Jim, I think it was in the same time period as the Wire Car.
Posted By: StewartP
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/06/10 06:39 PM
Jim, would these guys qualify as "Hairry" ??
Posted By: B1KILLER
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/06/10 08:27 PM
Posted By: 300by500
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/06/10 08:45 PM
Quote:
Was that picture taken at MCIR in Larue Ohio? I know the family that owns that duster. They still have it, just sitting though. Been a long time since it went down the 1/4.
Yep. It was taken at Marion County back in the 1980's.
If I remember correctly, it was taken on the day when Jeg Coughlin Jr. was racing their pit-bike in the motorcycle class. He dialed it in at 25 seconds flat, and he would get to the finish line in time to stop at the lights, pick up the front wheel of the pit bike, and drop in into the lights at just the right time to win. The next week they had a new rule where there was a minimum E.T. for the motorcycle class! LOL!
Sucks that the "Mounts Mopar" is just sitting around...
Posted By: 300by500
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/06/10 08:50 PM
Quote:Quote:
Are we talking about 2 different Rod Shop Colts ?
One of them was a sb car, and the other, I believe was a Hemi -- What I see as different is the hood scoops - one car seems to have the double layer scoop of as in the Roger Denny car, and the other a standard scoop
Pictures for your inspection
StewartP
Stewart,
The one that 300by500 is talking about is the one Rod Gartin use to own. The picture is identical except the picture I have doesn't have the Dodge decal on the door. But the hood scoop decals and the black stripe is exactly the same, along with the maroon headlights. According to Rod that car was Riffels car. He and Paul Marcum (who bought the car off the Rod Shop) both live in the Columbus area.
Is the black car in Va. The same car? If not does anyone know where that car went?
You're right, it's the car Rod Gartin later owned. I'd like to know where it is, too!
Posted By: RaceCarRegistry
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/07/10 03:38 PM
You're right, it's the car Rod Gartin later owned. I'd like to know where it is, too!
Sitting in Calif. -- Reed in Neb.
Sitting in Calif. -- Reed in Neb.
Posted By: StewartP
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/11/10 08:02 PM
How small a world is it ? This helmet was done 37 years ago, by Greg of Akron - check out the pictures of the car area and this helmet. A very GOOD, KIND FRIEND sent the helme to me and I got it today
Thank you DEAN C
StewartP
Thank you DEAN C
StewartP
Posted By: StewartP
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/11/10 08:03 PM
Helmet today
Posted By: StewartP
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/12/10 06:50 PM
Good afternoon,
I have a photo of my Black Colt, doing a burnout. I do not remember where it came from but on the bottom of the photo is this --- "WADE-0-LDIES"
Is Wade a member here, or does anyone know how to get in touch with him.
Thanks
Stewart
I have a photo of my Black Colt, doing a burnout. I do not remember where it came from but on the bottom of the photo is this --- "WADE-0-LDIES"
Is Wade a member here, or does anyone know how to get in touch with him.
Thanks
Stewart
Posted By: RTSE4ME
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/13/10 04:35 PM
I think this used to be a Romeo Palimedes car. Now it is going to be a Sox and Martin clone.
Posted By: Race&Resto
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/21/10 12:00 AM
Quote:
Good afternoon, I have a photo of my Black Colt, doing a burnout. I do not remember where it came from but on the bottom of the photo is this --- "WADE-0-LDIES" Is Wade a member here, or does anyone know how to get in touch with him.
Thanks Stewart
Stewart, I've seen him advertise some old photo's for sale on ebay in the past, but here are some from his personal photo album: WADE-O-LDIES.
Posted By: Race&Resto
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/21/10 04:59 AM
Here's a few more Pro-Stock Colt photo's, and does anyone know if the "Billy the Kid" and the "Rod Shop" Colts are still around, because I've always liked those ones!
Posted By: 52savoy
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/21/10 06:41 PM
Quote:Quote:
Another one a friend of mine in Ohio owned in the 80's. Originally a Hemi/Lenco but had a Max Wedge/727 when this pic was taken, about 1987. I think it was one of the Rod Shop cars?
I was Riffles Colt, then Paul Marcum owned it then Rod Gartin. After Rod sold it I'm not sure where it went. I have a picture of the car when Rod owned it on my wall.
Rod owned it only briefly from what I remember. The last I heard it's still in Columbus but a chevy guy owns it. I tried to get it off him 3 years ago but gave up. I passed the information on to Reed but he didn't have any luck either from what he told me.
Fred
oh yeah...love the picture of "MOUNTS MOPAR" too. I was wondering what happened to it.
Posted By: mr_340
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/22/10 03:50 PM
That Mini Hemi Colt is Stewart's Colt. Any more info on that owner and history?
Posted By: RaceCarRegistry
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/23/10 04:06 PM
"That Mini Hemi Colt is Stewart's Colt. Any more info on that owner and history?"
Leroy Roder outa Wisc. - Stewart's Colt went thru a number of people before I finally traced it down - it's in VA. now getting some work done to it and chassis is getting certified - I plan on making some short "squirts" with it when I get it done - here's a shot of the chassis right after we took the body off - Dave Christie & Stewart are helping with the restoration - MANY THANKS to both of 'em ! -- Reed in Neb.
Leroy Roder outa Wisc. - Stewart's Colt went thru a number of people before I finally traced it down - it's in VA. now getting some work done to it and chassis is getting certified - I plan on making some short "squirts" with it when I get it done - here's a shot of the chassis right after we took the body off - Dave Christie & Stewart are helping with the restoration - MANY THANKS to both of 'em ! -- Reed in Neb.
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/24/10 12:44 AM
Congrats on hunting down Stewart's colt. Bet he's like a kid in a candy store finally knowing its whereabouts!!
Posted By: 300by500
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/24/10 01:20 AM
Quote:
I think this used to be a Romeo Palimedes car. Now it is going to be a Sox and Martin clone.
With so many S&M clones already out there, why not find out more about the history of the car and restore it?
Posted By: RaceCarRegistry
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/24/10 01:36 AM
Thanks Bill, I've had the car for about 2 1/2 yrs now. Just this last year were we able to start on it. I traced it thru EVERY owner and finally found it up in them mountains of WV. Very people up to now even knew I had it. Very proud to have saved another piece of our racing heritage and even happier to have Dave Christie and Stewart P.'s help. Thru various friends, etc - have found some of the original parts off the car including -Lakewood/lenco bellhousing, Lenco shifter assy. (and possibly one of the Lenco's), complete Magnesium Dana, Dual-plug valve covers and inline twin-plug Dual-dist. and other misc. parts that diappeared off it over it's lifetime. It's a slow and costly project but well worth it. I believe it's the only known surviving Logghe-chassis'ed Colt left.
Many Thanks,
Reed in Neb.
Many Thanks,
Reed in Neb.
Posted By: Race&Resto
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/25/10 08:01 PM
Here's some more pic's of Colts in this photo album.
Posted By: mr_340
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/28/10 03:39 AM
Who had the Colt that was on the cover of Hot Rod or Car Craft circa 1971? All I can recall it was black with blue trim and it was one of the first Hemi Colts or might have been the first.
Zorian must have taken a liking to Colts after Stewart. They must be addictive.
Zorian must have taken a liking to Colts after Stewart. They must be addictive.
Posted By: mopacltd
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/28/10 03:42 AM
The Colts are an addition! For sure.
Posted By: RaceCarRegistry
Re: Hemi Colts again - 06/28/10 01:56 PM
Who had the Colt that was on the cover of Hot Rod or Car Craft circa 1971?
Jim Roath -- Reed in Neb.
Jim Roath -- Reed in Neb.
Posted By: StewartP
Re: Hemi Colts again - 12/04/10 11:13 PM
a picture I have not seen before - sent to me, PRO Race 1974 - NY National Raceway
anyone got any more ??
StewartP
anyone got any more ??
StewartP
Posted By: dOoC
Re: Hemi Colts again - 12/04/10 11:19 PM
Hay SP ....who is that with Ted ?
BTW ....what is the water-temp out in the Gulf ?
BTW ....what is the water-temp out in the Gulf ?
Posted By: StewartP
Re: Hemi Colts again - 12/05/10 12:52 AM
Ted ? That is Jim Ward in the red shirt --- Doc, you finally in Florida ?
StewartP
http://www.wunderground.com/MAR/GM/853.html
between 63 and 69 -
StewartP
http://www.wunderground.com/MAR/GM/853.html
between 63 and 69 -
Posted By: LSP
Re: Hemi Colts again - 12/05/10 02:26 AM
Stewart, the red Rod Shop Colt and the Desantis/Crider Colt tried the small blocks, were these early W-2 heads or were they using the Trans Am heads?
The Rod Shop Colt wagon with the Westlake small block was neat too.
The Rod Shop Colt wagon with the Westlake small block was neat too.
Posted By: StewartP
Re: Hemi Colts again - 12/05/10 03:31 AM
That I do not know, maybe Koffel can answer that question - I am a bigot - if the spark plug is not in the middle of the valve cover -- well, best left unsaid :-) 
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: Hemi Colts again - 05/13/11 02:57 AM
Gotta love it! I'd say that Chevelle is about to have something handed to it...a spankin!
Posted By: mgpanos
Re: Hemi Colts again - 12/01/11 04:42 AM
Hey, I can answer that! The Rod Shop Colt was used in 1974, with Jim Thompson driving, to test the prototype W2 heads. This program was parallel to Don Carlton's testing in the "yellow" car. The Colt ran a best of 9.12, as I recall, at about 100 lbs under the NHRA Pro Stock weight. There was alot more potential in the heads, but they were breaking blocks as the HP went up. The results of the Carlton and Rod Shop testing is what got Chrysler (slowly) started on developing the 340 race block which finally showed up about the time Glidden moved over to Mopar and ran the successful Arrow.
As for Desantis and Crider, they were trying to make a go of it with T/A type heads. As I recall, they only ran the car for a partial year, breaking alot of parts and finally selling the car to Roy Hill who put a Hemi in and did real well in IHRA Pro Stock in 1976 with it. He also ran his Duster in NHRA Pro Stock that same year.
Hope that helps!
Mark
As for Desantis and Crider, they were trying to make a go of it with T/A type heads. As I recall, they only ran the car for a partial year, breaking alot of parts and finally selling the car to Roy Hill who put a Hemi in and did real well in IHRA Pro Stock in 1976 with it. He also ran his Duster in NHRA Pro Stock that same year.
Hope that helps!
Mark
Posted By: mgpanos
Re: Hemi Colts again - 12/01/11 05:02 AM
The red Rod Shop Colt was only a small block in 1974 and *maybe* early 1975 until the W2 small block testing was stopped 'til a better engine block could be made (took 3+ years!). Then, it was converted to a Hemi with Gene Dunlop (and occasionally Riffle) driving as a B/A. When Dunlop damaged it in 1976, the Rod Shop bought the black Colt from Roger Denney to meet their match race obligations and Riffle turned in his Dart Sport to drive this Colt. The red Colt was also repaired and for a short time the Rod Shop was running 2 in-house program Colts (Riffle/black and Dunlop/red) and a third in Carlton's outside (gold car) program.
Hope that helps.
BTW, I sold the Colt back to the Rod Shop that your friend later bought and raced. Like David Sox said earlier, the Hardy-build Colts were very nice handling.
Mark
Hope that helps.
BTW, I sold the Colt back to the Rod Shop that your friend later bought and raced. Like David Sox said earlier, the Hardy-build Colts were very nice handling.
Mark
Posted By: mr_340
Re: Hemi Colts again - 12/01/11 06:46 AM
I thought Hill had a Plymouth Arrow? I don't remember any Colt he had. I sort of remember an article in HR or Carmaro Craft about some W2 prototype heads that were welded up. Probably Mullins developed but I don't remember much about the article.
Posted By: Race&Resto
Re: Hemi Colts again - 12/05/11 10:45 PM
Quote:
I thought Hill had a Plymouth Arrow? I don't remember any Colt he had. I sort of remember an article in HR or Carmaro Craft about some W2 prototype heads that were welded up. Probably Mullins developed but I don't remember much about the article.
I posted a photo Roy Hill's Colt earlier but you must have missed it, here it is again.
Also curious about any updates on any other small block & Hemi Colt's that other people are currently working on.
Posted By: bfury
Re: Hemi Colts again - 12/26/11 10:14 PM
Here are a couple I found in my pictures from Columbus at the Springnationals 1974.
Posted By: bfury
Re: Hemi Colts again - 12/26/11 10:20 PM
And another
