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What the HELL is that squeak?? #713473
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Figured I'd pose this question before I commence ripping out the rest of my hair.

My 440, after it gets warmed up, will squeak from the inside, and it will get louder/faster as RPM goes up, and then slow down when I drop to idle.

The only things I can say thus far is that if I put my ear over the carb, you can definitely hear it coming from inside it. I can't think of anything that would be squeaking in a carb, but then again, I'm no rocket scientist.

The sound is like that of two metal parts rubbing very quickly and sharply on one another. I can't explain it any other way. I might be inclined to record the sound later and post it up if my description doesn't net some results.

I just need to know what my next course of action should be. Pull carb? Pull intake? Pull valve covers?

Let me know please.

Thanks a lot,

Pat

Re: What the HELL is that squeak?? [Re: Pat_Whalen] #713474
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Re: What the HELL is that squeak?? [Re: 440challenger] #713475
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I had a starter start to engage my ring gear and it was a high pitched squeal. Stick your head under the car by the drivers side front wheel. Other then that, use an automotive stethoscope and disconnect one fan belt at time and check the alternator, waterpump, power steering, etc.
Good luck and keep us posted.
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Re: What the HELL is that squeak?? [Re: CavA3R4] #713476
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I had a starter start to engage my ring gear and it was a high pitched squeal. Stick your head under the car by the drivers side front wheel. Other then that, use an automotive stethoscope and disconnect one fan belt at time and check the alternator, waterpump, power steering, etc.
Good luck and keep us posted.
HTH
Bob




I have already disconnect all belts (there are only 2) and the squeak persists. I've put my head around every square inch of the engine looking for something minor rubbing somewhere. The most obvious location for the squeak is coming right out of the carb.

Re: What the HELL is that squeak?? [Re: Pat_Whalen] #713477
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I have already disconnect all belts (there are only 2) and the squeak persists. I've put my head around every square inch of the engine looking for something minor rubbing somewhere. The most obvious location for the squeak is coming right out of the carb.




try and spray some wd-40 around the base of the carb, notice if the idle changes and or sound changes. spray also around the intake to head area.
Bob

Re: What the HELL is that squeak?? [Re: CavA3R4] #713478
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Dang Pat..you sure come up with some good ones buddy


Re: What the HELL is that squeak?? [Re: scratchnfotraction] #713479
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Dang Pat..you sure come up with some good ones buddy






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Re: What the HELL is that squeak?? [Re: Pat_Whalen] #713480
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Feed the squirrel's, they'll quit squeaking...

Re: What the HELL is that squeak?? [Re: MNobody] #713481
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I had a squeak noise that turned out to be the balancer coeming apart and the outer ring worked back against the TC cover.

Was hard to see as it went back and not forward on the elastomer ring.


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Re: What the HELL is that squeak?? [Re: SomeCarGuy] #713482
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Torque convertor or crank pulley bolts.

Re: What the HELL is that squeak?? [Re: Pat_Whalen] #713483
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The sound is like that of two metal parts rubbing very quickly and sharply on one another. I can't explain it any other way. I might be inclined to record the sound later and post it up if my description doesn't net some results.






How does your oil look ? I had a squeak like you describe, I thought it was the Hencho en Mexico throwout bearing I didn't replace when I installed a new clutch in my Bee .

I can't attach the picture , it's too big , it turns out mine was a spun bearing.


Re: What the HELL is that squeak?? [Re: bobby66] #713484
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i had a squeak in a new motor i bought,when i finally pulled it out after trying all the obvious stuff it had cracked cylinder.the warmer it got the louder it got,piston rings scraping over the crack,i would have never beleived it could make a noise like that but it did.hope you have better luck than me.

Re: What the HELL is that squeak?? [Re: Pat_Whalen] #713485
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I had a smallblock that chirped when it warmed up. Previous owner had mixed up a few of the rocker arms. Straightened them out and the noise went away.


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Re: What the HELL is that squeak?? [Re: Pat_Whalen] #713486
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Internal carb leak? Try a length of heater hose as a listening device. One end close to ear, other at problem.

Re: What the HELL is that squeak?? [Re: rustbuckett68] #713487
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Here's a quick little video I shot. You can definitely hear the higher-pitched squeak if you listen, and you can hear it speed up as idle increases.

Hope this helps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4x8GuwCrsU

Re: What the HELL is that squeak?? [Re: Pat_Whalen] #713488
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Can't hear much , but what I do hear doesn't sound good , like it's misfiring ?

Re: What the HELL is that squeak?? [Re: JohnRR] #713489
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1. Pushrods rubbing cyl head/

2. PCV Valve?

Re: What the HELL is that squeak?? [Re: BergmanAutoCraft] #713490
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Do you have a breather in one valve cover and a PCV valve in the other?? If not you can develop a vacuum in the motor that will sound like a sqeal/sqeak.....

Re: What the HELL is that squeak?? [Re: JohnRR] #713491
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I think I would at least pull valve covers off, just to check things out


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Re: What the HELL is that squeak?? [Re: minivan] #713492
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Do you have a breather in one valve cover and a PCV valve in the other?? If not you can develop a vacuum in the motor that will sound like a sqeal/sqeak.....




Yes and yes, and they are both hooked up to their appropriate locations.

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