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1967 Coronet R/T questions #710995 05/29/10 08:58 PM 05/29/10 08:58 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,300 Northern Indiana Dunnuck Racing OP master
Dunnuck Racing OP master Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,300 Northern Indiana	I picked up a car today I have been looking at for a long time.It is missing the original engine and transmission,and needs stripped down and restored.I have not done a restoration in many years,as I got into racing more than anything,so I will be hounding you guys for advice. My first question is,without the correct drivetrain,what do you guys look for?How far back would you go for a casting date on a block and transmission housing to get a close match to what came in the car? Thanks in advance, Keith www.dunnuckracing.com

Re: 1967 Coronet R/T questions [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #710996 05/29/10 09:29 PM 05/29/10 09:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,304 Northern Indiana M mr_belvedere super gas
mr_belvedere super gas M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,304 Northern Indiana	For the most part, ignore the casting date. Go by the assembly date on the identification pad next to the dist. hole. Find a block with an assembly date relatively close to the scheduled build date for the car (and the correct model year), then check the casting date to confirm that it was cast before the assembly date (avoiding a shoddy restamp) Example to make the assembly date over casting date a priority- My 67 GTX came with what is believed to be the original block. SPD of the car was 9-13-66. assembly date on the cyl. block is 9-6. casting date on the block is 4-25-66. Block is correct for the car even though it was cast almost 5 months before the car was assembled. Kind of an extreme case, but it does happen.

Re: 1967 Coronet R/T questions [Re: mr_belvedere] #710997 05/29/10 09:41 PM 05/29/10 09:41 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,300 Northern Indiana Dunnuck Racing OP master
Dunnuck Racing OP master Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,300 Northern Indiana	Thanks! Exactly the kind of information I am looking for.I know it won't be a numbers matching car,but I would like to keep it as close as possible. www.dunnuckracing.com

Re: 1967 Coronet R/T questions [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #710998 05/29/10 09:49 PM 05/29/10 09:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 761 Raleigh, NC J John426 super gas
John426 super gas J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 761 Raleigh, NC	Oh Boy (Opening a big can of worms) There are no numbers on a 67 engine - hence no such thing as numbers matching. There is the concept of the original engine (which you do not have) but other than telling the truth, there would be no way to tell if you have a correctly dated 67 drivetrain. 68 Cars got the SO numbers stamped on them (mostly) and 69 cars started with the last 6 digits of the VIN. John P.

Re: 1967 Coronet R/T questions [Re: John426] #710999 05/29/10 09:57 PM 05/29/10 09:57 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,300 Northern Indiana Dunnuck Racing OP master
Dunnuck Racing OP master Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,300 Northern Indiana	John426, Thanks,I am restoring the car for personal use.Not to sell for a profit,or scam anyone.I just want to make it appear as original as possible.Heck,I may even do a "day2" type of deal,not real sure yet. www.dunnuckracing.com

Re: 1967 Coronet R/T questions [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #711000 06/05/10 06:55 PM 06/05/10 06:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,183 Bridgeport, WV M Michael master
Michael master M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,183 Bridgeport, WV	You will want a C 440 block

Re: 1967 Coronet R/T questions [Re: John426] #711001 06/05/10 07:22 PM 06/05/10 07:22 PM
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mopar4ya master M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,655 western PA	Quote: Oh Boy (Opening a big can of worms) There are no numbers on a 67 engine - hence no such thing as numbers matching. There is the concept of the original engine (which you do not have) but other than telling the truth, there would be no way to tell if you have a correctly dated 67 drivetrain. 68 Cars got the SO numbers stamped on them (mostly) and 69 cars started with the last 6 digits of the VIN. John P. John, most if not all 68 big blocks had the VIN number stamped into them, just not where the 69 and later engines do. Dan

Re: 1967 Coronet R/T questions [Re: mopar4ya] #711002 06/08/10 01:49 PM 06/08/10 01:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 761 Raleigh, NC J John426 super gas
John426 super gas J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 761 Raleigh, NC	Hey Dan, I'll bet you a can of NOS tire air that the 68 blocks have the SO number stamped on them over the top of the bellhousing flange, but very few (if any) have the VIN stamped on them!! It is interesting problem, because on the 66-68 cars the fender tags do not have the VIN, so the only (2) documents that tie the entire car together are the Certicard and the build sheet. Those are the only places where both numbers appear!! Extra points for those who can tell where the certicard was located on a 68 B-body (I'll give you whiff of the NOS air!! - giggle). John P.

Re: 1967 Coronet R/T questions [Re: John426] #711003 06/08/10 01:52 PM 06/08/10 01:52 PM
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318 Stroker master 3 Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,323 St. Louis, Mo	Quote: Extra points for those who can tell where the certicard was located on a 68 B-body (I'll give you whiff of the NOS air!! - giggle). Inside the owners manual?

Re: 1967 Coronet R/T questions [Re: 318 Stroker] #711004 06/08/10 02:55 PM 06/08/10 02:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 761 Raleigh, NC J John426 super gas
John426 super gas J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 761 Raleigh, NC	DING DING DING We have a winnah!! 68 Certicards are in a pouch inside the back cover of the owners manual in the glovebox. Most are very long gone!! Stop by the booth at Carlisle for you NOS air!!

Re: 1967 Coronet R/T questions [Re: John426] #711005 06/08/10 03:12 PM 06/08/10 03:12 PM
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sixpackbee master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,060 Western New York	Quote: I'll bet you a can of NOS tire air that the 68 blocks have the SO number stamped on them over the top of the bellhousing flange, but very few (if any) have the VIN stamped on them!! I have never seen an SO stamped on a 68 block. Most all had the full VIN stamped on the top of the bell area and also on the trans at the same spot. 1959 Bugeye Sprite 1967 Charger Black L code 1967 Coronet R/T Convert Green 440 auto bought from original owner 1968 Charger R/T Bronze 440 4 spd console AM/FM 1969 Super Bee WM21H B5 A40 D21 N96 1969 Barracuda Formula S 340 Convert pilot car 1969 Hemi Road Runner RM23J D32 Omaha orange 4.10 Dana N96 N85 1970 Super Bee WM23N FE5 V1X 3.91 axle package, N96 1970 Road Runner RM21N B3 V1X D13 1971 MG Midget 1971 Road Runner RM23H GW3, A57 1972 Road Runner RM23P FY1, D21

Re: 1967 Coronet R/T questions [Re: John426] #711006 06/08/10 03:14 PM 06/08/10 03:14 PM
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318 Stroker master 3 Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,323 St. Louis, Mo	Quote: DING DING DING We have a winnah!! 68 Certicards are in a pouch inside the back cover of the owners manual in the glovebox. Most are very long gone!! Stop by the booth at Carlisle for you NOS air!! Thanks for the offer John. I'd love to drive my 73 Challenger to Carlisle, but at 9 mpg from St. Louis, I'd have to re-fi my house to pay the fuel bill... I could use some NOS 1973 air for the Challenger though. Can you "Air mail" it to me?...

Re: 1967 Coronet R/T questions [Re: sixpackbee] #711007 06/08/10 03:23 PM 06/08/10 03:23 PM
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generallee6901 mopar G Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 465 indiana	I parted out a 68 charger years ago that had the so number on both the engine and trans at the top of the bellhousing area.

Re: 1967 Coronet R/T questions [Re: generallee6901] #711008 06/08/10 05:18 PM 06/08/10 05:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 761 Raleigh, NC J John426 super gas
John426 super gas J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 761 Raleigh, NC	Its interesting and you (of course!) never say never with Ma Mopar, but I have never personally seen a VIN stamped in that location. I owned a 68 Roadrunner, SO number stamped on bellhouse flange, have an original 68 RR in the shop now for a Body-in-white that had the original engine (not trans) and it has the SO number stamped on bellhouse flange, a friend of mine on Long Island has a 68 Coronet R/T that I went with him to document/validate in wisconsin before he bought it and ..... you guessed it, SO number stamped on the bellhouse flange. So, lets here from 68 owners with original engines - what do you guys have stamped VIN or SO Number? NOS Air for everyone (chuckle)

Re: 1967 Coronet R/T questions [Re: John426] #711009 06/08/10 06:10 PM 06/08/10 06:10 PM
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69CoronetRT master Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,948 Harlan, Iowa	Quote: Its interesting and you (of course!) never say never with Ma Mopar, but I have never personally seen a VIN stamped in that location. Here are some.....unless they put the plant and model year in the SO.... 6026955-68_VINS-600.jpg (41 downloads) Seeking: 1969 St. Louis plant VINs, SPD, and VONs. Over 2,000 thanks to you!

Re: 1967 Coronet R/T questions [Re: 69CoronetRT] #711010 06/08/10 06:15 PM 06/08/10 06:15 PM
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69CoronetRT master Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,948 Harlan, Iowa	6026966-68_VIN_engine_tranny_600.jpg (45 downloads) Seeking: 1969 St. Louis plant VINs, SPD, and VONs. Over 2,000 thanks to you!

Re: 1967 Coronet R/T questions [Re: John426] #711011 06/08/10 06:38 PM 06/08/10 06:38 PM
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69CoronetRT master Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,948 Harlan, Iowa	Quote: It is interesting problem, because on the 66-68 cars the fender tags do not have the VIN, so the only (2) documents that tie the entire car together are the Certicard and the build sheet. Those are the only places where both numbers appear!! How about the window sticker? Are both on there? Seeking: 1969 St. Louis plant VINs, SPD, and VONs. Over 2,000 thanks to you!

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